thank you for your tips. im in southern oklahoma, to far for on hand tips from most, but i think not heating the steel up enough was probly my biggest problem a little impatiant , i want to make something to bad and i probly am not letting my steel heat to a proper temp. and i did try to beat the steel to death now i no different , i am trying to make a tomahawk from a farrier rasp seen pics of them and have several sence i am a farrier but just not getting the hang of it. i have a two burner gas forge,and still trying to get the hang of it. i am interested in making knives and tomahawks youtube makes it look easy but i have no experiance,just shooting from the hips . any info will be very apriated. thank you and forgive the spelling.