the branch

Thank you for the response. He was happy to hear that. I do wonder tough if the horn is a bit to beefy for a 1700?

Hello there! A friend just bought an anvil and got one for free. And he is interessted in knowing some more info about them. I guess the first one is north german maybe? Its 120 kg and from 1912. The other one is... unknown. It has a weird construction.

Straight on one side, and pretty deformed, but has a usable rebound and ring to it. Does anyone recognize what this anvil might be spesific to? And am I right that the first might be german?

-Thank you for watching! 

-Jens

looks very much like an ASO

You have a point there, but won´t wax melt or get some reaction with the skin, say for warm/ sour skinned people etc?

Maybe a different version works better? my teacher talks alot about HM´s cheap matte- nailpolish. Haven´t tried it myself but i´ll give it a test! Maybe some higher quality spray laquer? For high stress items. Plows etc. There should probably be some clear car laquer around =) 

clear nail polish should work fine. ether on the whole piece or just the part against the skin. =)

very lovely! Im having problem getting interested in architectural work. But this makes my finger itch.

wow, that is really abused. Almost looked like someone did that on purpose! Do you know how it ended up like that? Blown up?

Very nice! Seems like good hard work. =)

It does have a narrow waist for that type---looks to be very handy for ornamental work and I would wonder about farrier work too as the narrow waist might lighten it up for transport. Any idea how much it weighs?

only info is length 57 and height 30 (cm that is) As I have one similar looking (cast steel) with the same length, but 5 cm shorter I guess it to be about 60 kg as mine is 50. But then again, it seems to have a lot less mass at the waist. 

Greetings there! So I finally found that anvil magnet everyone is talking about and find them everywhere where I can acquire them:P 

Anyways.

I found this one for sale and it made me wonder about the shape. I guess its just "another way" to do an anvil, but still, it looks like it has some german flare but with less mass distribution. Maybe specialises for a kind of work (farrier?). 

 

Does anyone recognize this kind of anvil/ where it might come from?

 

http://www.finn.no/finn/torget/annonse?finnkode=50635591&searchclickthrough=true&searchQuery=ambolt

 

-Jens (the newly awakened anvil addict)

hah! It does have a flair of geometric architecture about it with the more "elegant" windows. So yea :P Maybe they should start using those kind of anvils in fantasy movies.

Today I saw a JEB anvil, 75-80 kg. It is said to be German made but still no confirmation for that.

I tested its rebound and it was awful dead. 

 

No conclusions, just telling the story...

 

Bests

 

Gergely

I think the JEBs are Austrian. too sad about it beeing dead tough. The one I found did make some noice. I guess its cast without a steel plate. Cause it was still kicking.

Well, then check out this mammoth baby! 260 kg - the biggest Hungarian I've ever heard of. (There are bigger ones, but I'm not sure of their origin.) I have my eyes on it, but have not the money for it  :( .

 

260 kg anvil.jpg 260 kg anvil2.jpg

 

 

 

 

I don't know the official answer, but I use it rarely to forge some angles.

-DROOL-

 

I don´t know what the angle is designed for. But I´ll find a use for it! 

It's really my pleasure. I'm so glad that someone here can use a Hungarian anvil. Mine is almost indentical to yours: the shape, the weight is almost the same. It was also made in the same factory only pre WW2. Back then those anvils got only RIMA sign and no numbers.

 

I can't find anything about the numbering. Yours is 54 kg, and the numbers are 15 and 16. The pictures below show a 107 kg version of the same production type. The number is 67. I'm no math wiz and can't see the relation between the numbering and the weight.

My intuition says that numbering can refer to the mistycal technical standard. Maybe the numbers are the type numbers given in the standard. Who knows?...

 

 

s anvil 107kg2.jpg s anvil 107kg3.jpg

oooooh! Thats a lovely one! One thing is sure, anvilmakers could have a fair shot at encrypting things. Theese systems are very queer. :P

Hi Branch,

 

I'm sorry for the long run. I try to give all I have about it. Which, unfortunately isn't too much.

Like I said last time it's cast steel, and I think there a tool steel plate, but it isn't confirmed just my experience.

Date of making is 1947-1957, because post 1957 MSZ sign was used to show what technical standard is applied to that very object. I couldn't find MNOSZ1300 itself, which would have shown us more interesting details.

About the maker see 

 

Thank you for the reply! Very interesting! I guess the numbers on the side indicate the weight of the piece then?

Thanks for posting the photos of the anvils. I think those anvils with the stepped feet are beautiful. If there wasn't a big pond between here and there, I would have bought them all.

I do agree! Very happy that i found them. I am contemplating buying the biggest one too, but my anglegrinder broke so ill have to buy me a new one of those. An extra for me is that this design seems to have roots in the Styrian part of austria, which is where I was born :)

Here are some more pictures. The face with all its dings, Some chipping in the front. And what it looks like on the bottom. Because, hey! Some people like that too :P

46 kilo is close to the smallest practical anvil shop anvil. If the 46 is much better than the 48, by all means choose that one. I love the German style and all the pictures you posted are quite beautiful. There is nothing wrong with a cast steel anvil for the most part. Cast iron without a steel top plate is another story. 

My bad on the weight! It seems its the length of the face. The one I bought, the "46", is 53,8kg. The bigger one was in much worse shape, compared to mine which only has some dings, alltough some are a bit bigger, but still just dings. It has a lovely rebound and a modest ring. 

 

Hi!

 

I have to run right now, but the with the long writing on the side (post #5, pic 2) is Hungarian made, cast steel, tool steel plate anvil, post WW2.

Gonna be back, and try to say more. Maybe tomorrow.

 

Gergely

 

Looking forward to it :P I found out that its pretty much the same as one of the ones on anvilfire. http://www.anvilfire.com/anvils/ferd_anvil_012.php Just lighter. 

mine is hidden under a bench at the moment and cant be got at, dont think it had any markings but the 2 big bits of plate welded on it could cover them.

will look later to see if I can find any pictures I taken of it

Is it hiding from the people who rewelded it before? ^^

 Well it is just a bit of curiosity, nothing to straign your back for :P 

the one I have is forged I think and weighs about 50 to 60kg

I think its probably the same then? Does it have any numbers on the sides? mine has a 15 and a 16(or 18) on the side without the slope, where the logo is. On the side with the slope it has a area where there was writing. but its so worn that its hard to see anything but vague shadows of letters.

could not get the anvilfire link to work but I have an anvil of this general type

it has the same feet

the same central column rather than waist

the same angled shelf on one side

 

it is in need of much work as it has in the past been broken and welded very badly, the break was from below the horn to the table and most of the plate is missing from the table too, 2 ugly pieces of plate have been welded on the sides to fix it a long time ago.

one day when I get time I will do what I can to repair it

There is truly something very sad about badly treated anvils. Altough they do tell a nice story :P 

It does seem (after lurking a bit on german forums) that its probably a cast anvil. But the slim heel could indicate that its forged. since the cast ones generally have thicker heels. I did find some JEB ones which are kind of the middle european equivalent of a peddinghaus or similar. 

Greetings! So I was at a local antique shop today and found they have four anvils for sale. It does seem like they are of the same design which I guess is hungarian/ austrian (not queit sure). the first one is a guess at about 35kg. The second at 46, the third at 39 and the big one at 48kg. 

 

The only one that has a marking is the biggest one which has a JEB on the side, and looks well used. 

 

I am contemplating buying the second one which is the only one not eather marred or bulged. But wanted to show you guys them. Because I know you love anvilpictures =P 

 

I am wondering tough. Are theese just some "knockoffs" from some known designs? Or is it the costum to not mark theese types? Only one I´ve found are http://www.anvilfire.com/anvils/ferd_anvil_004.php. 

 

Afaik they do have good rebound. Only had a iron rod to test them with, but it did bouce well. Tomorrow I´ll bring a hammer :P

I had one with just one piece. I thought i still had it so i just had to take a photo, but that vise might work somewhere else.

 

Part looks like this:

part1.jpg

it was made of mild steel

 

that is what happens to the crank:

part2.jpg

You lose a bit of material and get a bulge.

But mine worked for many years to that point.

 

You could improve that by adding a washer of brass or bronze as a sacrifice.

part3.jpg

 

and as an improvise before you get in contact with a turning shop that builds the one which works as spherical washers)  you could built something like this.

part4.jpg

also with sacrifice washer. Just make the hole big enough that the thread has got enough space to move.

THAnks! very helpfull :)

"If there are cars near you there will be usable bearings around."

 

Hehe, can´t deny that :P Thank you again Thomas, and everyone else. I really appreciate it! =)

Only got my coal and gas forge and my hammers. And sadly its hard getting any sort of metalparts that are more advanced than constructionbars around where my forge is. But I´ll have a look around and see what If I can´t figure it out. Shouldn´t be a problem making something that´ll last a summer until I get started on my blacksmithschool. I think they´ll have the equipment and knowledge to help me there. 

I´ll may be posting my custom solution on here when I get to it =)

 

Else I´ll just have to bug someone of you guys for a spare part ^^

 

Thanks again! 

Ah, that clears up a fair bit. And bugger! :wacko:  I have no idea how I can get any replacementsparts. Guess I´ll have to improvice something for the time beeing. Wonder how this is going to go... 

 

Anyways Thank you so much for the help! Appreciate it =)