Okay, I read and reread tips and pointers as well as the book by Jim Hrisoulas, and am still having no luck with a clipped point blade. I tried tapering out the front end of the bar to form the "clip" then went on to make the blade. Only problem was, when I formed the blade, the clip disappeared every time. I attached a picture and circled what's left of the clip, and that was after about 6 or 7 times of flattening it out and starting at square 1 all over again, basically wasting the whole night. Please tell me what I'm doing wrong. I know I can all too easily just grind a clip, but that's not the point (no pun there) I'm trying to make. I know I can forge the clip in, and want to learn how.