Thank you all for the kind replies. Frosty, the hammers sit... ok. I'm certainly going to need to spend a bit of time forging with this set up to see how I operate around the new stand, though i may end up redoing the looped area to put the hammers there, mentally that is where I'm leaning. The issue I'm running into with running the hammer heads perpendicular to the sides is the anvil feet block the ability to do that at a few of the offsets. Will definitely need some tweaks, fingers crossed they stay on the minor side. Thomas, JHCC part of my design of this set up is to have it be "semi-mobile". my forging area blocks in my "kids" 4 wheeler so i need to be able to move it all out of the way when they've earned a ride. Not at all the ideal set up, but it's the only set up I have at the moment. The more I think about the tongs at the forge, the more I very much like the idea, I may have to do some staring at that area and try and figure out a nice way of holding them there.