Thanks guys, I am making a bunch of small hooks and nails and small decorative pieces, styled similar to 16th century blacksmiths, the knife was just to get a feel for it and didn't intend on doing such for awhile but I was shown something similar and just had to try it, but as far as making tongs I'll have to wait to come across bigger pieces of good material for myself. We have all the shop tools and they dont encourage wasting good material on noobies like me. But I have some small chunks I hope to make my various punches and chisels with as well, just dipping in slowly as funds are low into a few of my personal things while I also slowly gather the materials to make a forge of my own. Appreciate the feedback