Thanks for your advice Frosty , wouldn't have much luck here finding anything second hand as the reason for looking something new , would be a different story if was coal fired as would maybe make my own forge then but have decided for a few reasons gas would be the way forward . You mention the shelf in the forge can you explain a bit more about that ? . Also if anyone else including yourself has any other recommendations on other gas forges please let me know as again im in no rush just counting up my ideas.
Also sorry forgot to ask what did you mean by insulting liners