Thanks Frosty for the info. I built a bigger burner for air flow and will try it tomorrow. I will also try to get some pics up of the other burner plus the new one i made. I am new to this and wanted to try it out. I have a coal/wood forge I have used made out of a old brake drum and bottom of a lawnmore. which works great. But I thought building a gas forge would be cheaper and alittle faster. Forgive me as im pretty new to this and has been my dream to do blacksmithing.