Cheers Phil, not too far from yourself, Byron bay. And we met briefly when Will showed me around you workshop. Drawings would be a great help, it's an 85kg. The strapping must be an Aussie thing, have been told it was working 20 years ago by a spring works in Mullumbimby. It looks like the gland face has been welded using a brass or bronze filler but will attach a picture. Might have a chat with you Phil at the Agm at you place later in the year. And thanks Alan, unfortunately the ex owner is long gone by now. But may ask around at the next forge in at Tamworth, NSW. Transporting it is only an hour and a half round trip, So a small price to pay for possible a good hammer. Great to hear that the beche company is still going in some form, I was half expecting to go off Nazel drawings and similar refurb photos. On a completely different point Alan, what ever happened to your gates at Liverpool st during the redevelopment?