Thanks Frosty my son and i went to a hammer in at Lund Blacksmithing in Hazen North Dakota. These days its hard to get teenagers off the phone ect... well he took to it so we are getting set up looking for stuff but not very many want to part with any tool that were there grandpas so they sit and rust away never to hear the ring of the anvil agein. So if there is any one out there willing to part with a Hammer head or tongs they are willing to part with? My Son and I would love to know . email robbiesirena1987@gmail.com Thanks looks like a great group on here. Robbie J if there are is any body willing to sell some hammer heads or tongs