Steve like i sead i have been forging blads for some time.i am mostly self tought trial and earror mostly earror. I wanted to try some forge welding so i tryed heating and folding steel back on its self i was able to get it to weld. So i tryed bulding bellets heating and folding after some failure ok a lot of failure i did get enough for my first blade after that i was hooked. My first blade had about 150 layers but it was a lot of work and it tok a lot of coal. I did manage to make one more blade with 350 layers that looked pretty good. My set up is somthing out of the distent past. I cant afford to put a lot of money in all the stuf i need. So thiufgt in the long run it would be easer to go with a gas forge. I looked at your web site it had a lot of good info any help you be would great. Thank you Greg. Please use sentence case in your posts