awesome thanks for the links. The anvil stand I have is the one that was with my anvil when I got it and the more I learn about anvil stands the more im seeing how underbuilt mine is.... just a simple 4 leg design out of 1 1/2x1 1/2x1/4 angle. Total weight is very very light compared to what Im seeing being used everywhere else. So now to start from scratch and think up a new stand design. Stump, 4x4's bolted together or a new steel one, no idea which to do right now. All I know is it HAS to be mobile, I have to move it in and out of my garage everytime I want to use it.