Son of Bluegrass, That is an interesting thought about the rust converter, would you have a recommendation for a converter? Also you mentioned heating until the oxides turn dark, are you meaning that I should heat the solution to these temperatures that you mention, or heat my material, and then apply solution. Sorry if that seems redundant, but I am on a short time frame to deliver to her newly remodeled home. So I am trying to not make to many mistakes. Also I thank you for your time, and help.