one day i seen this section at an old ladys house, she said she used it for traction in the winter time and i told her what i wanted it for so she gave it to me all i have done with it so far is just put it up on 2 logs and been using it like that ive always wanted to get into knife smithing and its finally working out i have a wood stove that gets pretty hot and other that that not much else but a pile of leaf springs and lawnmower blades.