Aloha and thank you much for the welcome, I have made a pair of tongs ( not with my forge and anvil, still waiting for them, but still look alright), but unable to post pics on this site, I have tried jpg/gif/bmp, the last page when I try to process, says unable to support at this time, I even set my camera to the smallest Kb/email style pic, please let me know what I might being doing wrong, I would sure like to set up some of my pics, thank you in advance, Zapsteel!!