sorry about that i will try to explain it better as i am also confused myself the most i have done is forge with junk metal etc. i want to buy some flat stock cut my shape out anneal it work on the blade with grinding etc Temper it and then Sharpen it. if im going about that wrong pleas correct me as i am confused on the matter. i have a brick propane forge in my backyard etc i had thought you first anneal, then harden and then temper the blade to a hassle straw color for 2 hours i found a youtube video that better explains what i want to do i hope this clears up any confusion. youtube(dot)com/watch?v=mQVdqlHta-4 remove the (dot) and put a period