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Andrew, Thanks for talking to me. I have been to your web page and I am truly in love with some of your work. Your JET ring are beautiful. I don't so much want to make rings, but understand the technique behind it as I would love to wrap knife handles the idea. Perhaps make my wifes wedding bind out of that once her and I get married. When is the best time to call you. Kind Regards, Jaret Olson