arctic_canoe

Thank you Dan R for your input. By the time I insulate with 3" of wool my forge will the same size interior as yours. I was originally thinking a single 4"x8" burner but I started second guessing myself down to a 4"x6" with 23 ports and 33 ports for the 8".My goal would be to get back into general Blacksmithing and progress into knives. I do stock removal now. Now I'm second guessing myself again maybe I should stick with the 4"x8" according to Pine Ridge the 4"x6" will get me to temp.

On 3/9/2019 at 11:38 AM, Frosty said:

Oh you didn't offend me, I came on too strong . . . again. <sigh> We just hear very detailed plans with virtually no basis in reality so often I tend to draw incorrect conclusions on too thin evidence. It's a once bitten twice shy thing. 

Frosty I've worked with my hands my whole life and I practice time vs money. I can spend the money on the right tool for the job or I can spend time and labor XXXXXXX around trying to get the job done. In the end I have the right tool, and the job get done quicker each time I use it. Buy once cry once. That said know I need to change my approach on this tool/forge. This is why I tend to over build things and for the most part I'm OK with that.  

On 3/9/2019 at 10:38 AM, AlphaDog Forge said:

Arctic,  i have done the same thing your doing, ive been forging now for 3 yrs, i always read through these forums and thought well i can tweak this,  or try this, andhave spent more money then i probably should have and have lost more time tearing down and redoing my forges...

AlphaDog I honestly considered building my own Ribbon Burner it's well within my wheel house. But the though of the whole Chicken verse Egg argument. How do I cast a burner that I cant cure to 1000 deg F without a forge and a burner. I hear there is a castable that cures at oven temps but I don't know what it's called and who makes it. The nice thing about living in energy sector of Canada, the refractories supplies are easy to come by. AlphaDog How loud is your Ribbon Burner? This may sounds silly but I like to listen to the radio and have a conversation while I work. lol

13 hours ago, Mikey98118 said:

Actually, I think shipping to Canada is worse

It is. lol  Shipping across Canada is bad enough. We get killed on brokerage fees at tne boarder. It's almost cheaper to ship from US to Canada than across Canada. 

On 3/5/2019 at 5:38 PM, Frosty said:

This is a case where, "if a little is good more must be better," is a good way to spend lots of money for an insignificant return.

You're making a mistake most of us have made breaking into a new craft. You're trying to design the perfect tool without knowing enough. This is your FIRST forge and you have it designed already? How much time do you have working in a gas forge? How much time do you have at the anvil? Your last post says you don't know a good size and probably not even what the important numbers are.

I don't do basic math for guys who won't or can't for themselves anymore. I came as close as I'm going to in my last post. How about going back to Forges 101, looking at the most commonly built propane forge and using a proven design. Something developed by guys who have been using the things and tinkering with them for decades? 

We don't mind helping folk get going, heck I enjoy it but I've become tired of having the same conversation over and over and over.

How about putting your design ideas aside till you've done some proper research.

Frosty The Lucky. 

I apologize if I offended you. I had no intention of over stepping any boundaries. I had no idea how much a few inches would make. Just to clarify this is my first propane forge as stated in my first post. I've swung a hammer be it not for twenty years. It only says newbie under my name because this is my first time posting. 

I just wanted to get a head start on ordering my burner and other components. This stuff is takes a long time to ship to Canada and is expensive as I'm sure it is to Alaska, That is why asked for some opinions on ribbon burner and placement.

Again sorry if I offended anyone.

In reality I didn't take into count the isolation on the back of the bell/door or the raised floor to make it 6" so really it will be 6" wide at the floor, around 12" long and 7.5" at the widest point of the curved walls. Is that to big? I sectioned a 100 pound bottle so I could get 3" of kaowool inside with all the toppings. Decommissioned 100 pounders are free if you know were to get them.

Thank you Frosty for your response. It didn't sound that big in my head. So in reality I could cut the length down a fair bit. By the time I flatten the floor it will be 6" wide and 6.5" to 7" tall.

Keeping in mind all the coating that I will need to applied. What is the max length I should go?

Apposed to what? I thought 8" wide would be nice, and really I could shave a couple of inches off the length but would that make a huge difference?

Hi Gang. 

I've done as much reading on this subject as I can, but I would like some opinions. This is my first gas forge build. My plan is to go with a Ribbon Burner Feeding  a 15" long section of a 100 pound propane bottle encasing 3" of kaowool, Rigidizer, Castable followed by ITC 100 or similar products. So far this is a pretty standard building practice. The interior of my forge should be around 8" x 15" give or take an inch and about 750 cubic inches. Okay down to business. What size Ribbon Burner do you all think I need ( I'm thinking a 8" or 10' Pine Ridge Burner) and side or top mount? 

I'm open to all opinions.