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BlackKnight0739

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  1. As long as you check for leaks and use a reasonable amount of caution like Wayne said, gas lines are really not a big deal to work with. The pressures you'll be working with are really low, you'll be fine :-)

    One other thing to note is there is a thread tape specific for use with propane and other gas lines (the stuff I bought was yellow), make sure you use that if you are going to use thread tape!

    I don't have a 16 year track record (haven't been smithing that long lol), but I'm alive with no accidents to my name! 

  2. Layering kaowool is not only another way of lining a forge, it's the preferred method (like wpearson said)! It allows for easier maintenance of the forge when you're swapping out old kaowool, plus it's easier to manage thinner blankets than one big heavy one.

    Plus, who can argue with free kaowool? lol

  3. I built my own propane forge using Frosty's T-burner, it's not as intimidating as you think. Your project can be the design and construction of that forge (you can make the cart for it by hand as well), and your presentation can be using the forge to make a demo piece of your choosing.

    If you don't want to build a forge, Glenn's bench project is also an amazing idea as well!

  4. My favorite beginner project is the leaf keychain personally. It teaches a lot of the basic skills and it shows that blacksmithing can be used for more than just functional things. It also carries a lot of wow factor (I still carry my first leaf to this day, and a lot of people are impressed by it).

    I also completely agree with SmoothBore, lack of familiarity with the hardware and terminology will slow your lesson down a LOT! The fact that you have so many projects packed into a day is great though, because even if you have to finish them on your next lesson it will give your student something to look forward to!

     

    Good luck to both of you! It's awesome to see the torch of knowledge is being passed on!

  5. Frosty's burners don't like to light unless they're in a forge, or pointed towards an enclosure of fire bricks. A flare is usually not used on his burners either (I happen to have one and it works well, but most people don't). Try that first and see if it works!

  6. I've been told to never use IR coating on firebrick, which made sense to me given the fact that it's pretty porous. 

     

    My forge is an old converted propane tank with 2" thick kaowool with IR coating and a firebrick for a floor (in retrospect, two 1" thick sheets of kaowool would do the trick better, so good decision there!). My burner is a T-burner designed by our very own Frosty and it's been working great (thanks again for all the help with it! Frosty!), with my burner nozzle inset about an inch into the wool, and angled 15 degrees from top dead center (TDC).

    There isn't as much erosion around the wool as you'd think, especially if you preform the wool beforehand. It's pretty malleable, and once you form it and hit it with rigidizer you'll be more than fine! I didn't use any rigidizer and it formed a flare pretty well for me! The brick will be fine too, I'd be more worried about your steel damaging it more than anything else. If you want to see any photos, I'll PM you some no problem (don't want to spam them here unless asked for).

     

  7. First off, great weld! Looks really nice!

    Practice a LOT before attempting to weld your O-1, but other than that you're on the right track. I don't personally use the coat hanger trick as it takes precious time to conduct, what I'd suggest is to use it until you can recognize welding heat when you see it without the test. Forge welding is all about speed, accuracy, and just the right amount of force behind the blows. Tapping lightly is the key to it, which it seems you have learned ;)

    "Is it better to heat the entire billet, and attempt to forge weld the entire length in a single heat, rather then attempt to do it in sections?" A single heat is best in nearly every circumstance, as it takes less time and fuel to perform a task. If it's possible to forge weld it in one shot, do it.

    Keep at it and you'll be there in no time!

  8. You'd be surprised where gems of knowledge are hidden; I'd keep an open mind when people are trying to share something to be perfectly honest with you. How do you know your coworker didn't get lessons from his grandfather and that's what got him into machining in the first place? Some of the best (albeit limited) knowledge I have about blacksmithing came from machinists, or someone they knew. It's how I was able to build my forge :)

  9. Oh, okay! I'm pretty sure I can make something like that, no problems! Does the helper with the firebrick topper on it slide in and out independently of the one on the other side? It looks like you have one on each side, which can definitely be handy!

  10. Wow, that's a lot of forge, sure a lot nicer than my first few. I only have a couple suggestions. I'd tweak the flame so it's aimed at the near side of the floor brick, right now most of the direct heat is aimed at the joint of the floor and kaowool sidewall.
     
    The other suggestion I have is a helper. I built a telescoping helper on my forge, it will slide out a good 18" to support long pieces and can be pushed back in. What I've discovered though is I like hanging tongs from the thing so it never gets slid back in unless I'm moving it.
     
    If you use expanded metal or stout screen to block the front of the shelves it'll help keep you from reflexively bending into the flame but not block your view.
     
    All in all it's a darned nice job. Well done.
     
    Frosty The Lucky.


    Thank you! Since the burner is your design, to hear you say it's well done means quite a lot! :) I'll make the aiming adjustments this weekend if I can get the time for sure.

    What does a helper look like? I've never heard of one before.
  11. bending over to get something off a shelf on the open door side is a bit of a safety  hazard


    I 100% agree and will keep that in mind when I load the shelves. I'll try to make sure everything is oriented so that I have to come in from the side on the bottom two shelves. The top shelf I can reach just fine without really bending over (I'm short lol) so I think I'll be safe; however I'm very safety oriented, especially since I don't want to be shot down by the wife lol
     

    Maybe put sheet metal on the front side? Remove that temptation.

    Even as is, it looks great.

    I also wonder if it would be worth adding another fire brick set (removable and adjustable of course) on the front to be able to restrict the opening and hold more heat inside...? Although I don't know if that would be bad, ie. restricting airflow and effecting burner efficiency, I' m absolutely sure there are others on here who know way more than me, I'm still working on building my first gasser. I just have too much of a tinkering mind to not have thoughts and ideas for different possibilities when I see something new.


    I actually came to the same conclusion today! I think I'm going to put up two angle irons, one across the top and one across the bottom to create a 'sliding door' effect. Either that or I'm going to make a swinging door with a kaowool-lined inside, I haven't quite decided :) I think the sliding door firebrick gives me more flexibility though, so that's my top choice for the moment.

    Thanks for the feedback guys!
  12. It's been a LONG time coming, but I finally scraped together enough time to make my forge and the cart for it! Please ignore most of the Sharpie markings, this was a huge learning process for me lol. The last image is a link to a video of it running; it's not great quality but I thought it was still pretty cool :) I'll try to take a better video next time!
     



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    Link to the video (the forum wouldn't let me post it directly)


    If there are any improvements you can see, I would love to hear feedback! :)
  13. ThomasPowers is right, the size of the forge you want to make does depend very heavily on the size of the piece you plan on working with. If you plan on making small pieces, you don't want to run too large a forge, or you're just throwing money away in fuel.

    I am building my own burner for my forge, to answer your question, and I'm hoping that when I'm finished it'll do a touch more than simply boil water ;-)

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