Carlewis

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Thank you so much for the info.

Morning all,
I just received an early xmas gift (so that I can finish the gifts I am making) of a Smith Gasaver to enable me to keep my torch on without stopping and starting after chasing and sinking sheet. I have read thoroughly the instructions and have looked at Smith's site and can not find an answer to this question: what hoses do I use to connect the regulators to the Gasaver?

"Gasaver Instruction and Parts" states under INSTALLATION in 2B: "Connect the fuel gas hose from the regulator (Grooved Nut) to the connection marked 'INLET-L.H.' and the oxegen hose from the regulator (Smooth Nut) to the connection marked 'INLET-R.H.' " (italics mine)

Later, of course, it says to attach the torch hoses to the respective Gasaver outlets on the other side.

It seems to me that I need to purchase a new short set of hoses with appropriate type hose connections. Is this right? What sort?

Thanks so much for any help.
Michal

I love these!

He is correct. He is working by the Uniform Plumbing Code and that is what is in effect where you live. It sound like you are having a large tank installed that is normally used to supply all the needs of household equipment not a blacksmith forge. If you are going to run hard piping to your forge you will need to run something made for higher pressure than schedule 40, perhaps schedule 80 or schedule 120 pipe and fittings. For this you will need to go through the permitting process. Like most of us who run a propane forge off of BBQ bottle we tend to ignore the permitting process and all the rules about having a propane bottle in a structure, like our shop for instance. Propane is a very dangerous gas, as it is heavier than air and tends to build up close to the floor when there is a leak. Natural gas isn't much better when it comes to leaks but we, being blacksmiths, tend to let the code thing slip to the back ground when we are forging. Now in the past I have used the big 100 pound bottles in my shop with just the standard rubber hose from the tank regulator to the forge without any problem but it hard to that with one of those big ground mounted tanks that takes a crane to place. Yes your installer is correct, this ain't no BBQ.

For what this may be worth to you!
Propane Gas Line into shop
I ran into a problem with installing a fixed gas line into my shop!

Our code says that I have to keep my propane tank out side.
I have to keep the tank at least 3 feet away from a window or door,
and 10 feet away from an electrical outlet or appliance.

I also have to run the gas line through the wall with/(in) black pipe.
It requires a regulator, Gage, and shut off valve on each side of the wall.
I am using a 100 pound tank.
So I designed my shop to accommodate this issue.

PLEASE DO NOT keep any tanks inside of where you have an ignition of some type going.
Such as welding operations of any type, cutting (sparks), grinding, or forging.
I had a tank vent when the tempters were only about 70 degrees. That was not supposed to happen, but IT DID!
If that tank had been near where I was forging, I suppose I would not be here typing to you.

It is not worth trying to beat the code. It will help keep you safer!
You will do yourself and everybody who cares about you a favor to learn and understand all that you can about using propane!
Please be safe! ~ Ted Throckmorton

I use a 4 burner Whisper Gran daddy Forge that needs 10-15 lbs operating pressure. I have a 100 gallon tank located outside the building with steel piping to just inside the wall near the forge. At that point there is a ball valve followed by rubber hose to the forge with a second regulator and ball valve located right at the forge. The rubber hose is suspended from the ceiling so it won't be walked on or have a piece of hot iron melt it. The gas company had no problem hooking it up even though they had to order a special high pressure regulator. They did insist on the steel pipe with an inside shutoff in case the rubber hose failed or burned through. One doesn't want to have to run outside and shut the tank off. They told me that while it wasn't required I could make the setup safer by installing what they called a "slug" valve at the tank. They would have insisted if I had gone with a 1000 gallon tank. That valve shuts the propane flow off at the tank if it senses flow over a certain amount. That saves dumping the whole contents in your shop if something ruptures. A friend of mine is a glass blower and had exactly that happen. He also ran high pressure and his furnaces had to run 24/7. One night a line failed and he had a propane fed fire inside his shop. Needless to say, nothing left.

Be careful about hypothetical situations and advice. If your property has any value and you skirt the codes, it is very likely your insurance company will not pay in case of catastrophe. I have been using this setup safely for over 15 years and my insurance and gas companies both know and approve. Codes may vary so check yours.

I am trying to set up my new Chili forge. My local propane guy says that it is against the law (I am in WI) for him to install my propane tank outside with piping to the inside because it is high pressure and it is dangerous. (Chili recommends 9-15 psi working pressure.) He is only allowed to install pipe for up to 5 psi and that is only with a special permit. He said most residential uses are at .5 psi.

Now, of course, having the tank inside is even more dangerous. I have tried to research this to find out what others have done and to find a solution. Please tell me what I am missing here. What do all of you do?

Thanks so much.

I am trying to set up my new Chili forge. My local propane guy says that it is against the law (I am in WI) for him to install my propane tank outside with piping to the inside because it is high pressure and it is dangerous. (Chili recommends 9-15 psi working pressure.) He is only allowed to install pipe for up to 5 psi and that is only with a special permit. He said most residential uses are at .5 psi.

Now, of course, having the tank inside is even more dangerous. I have tried to research this to find out what others have done and to find a solution. Please tell me what I am missing here. What do all of you do?

Thanks so much.