Bright Forge Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 I’m looking to buy this anvil but I’d like to know a little more about it. Any chance you guys could help me ID it and tell me a little about the maker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 What are the markings on the anvil, sides, front feet etc? What is the weight of the anvil? The price of the anvil depends a lot on where it is located, not the street address but the state, or country of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Forge Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 I’m not really looking to have it appraised, more just find out what maker it came from. It has a series of markings denoting weight and year of manufacture and what appears to maybe be a serial number? I’m hoping somebody recognizes the shape and the marks and can ID it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Welcome aboard Bright Forge, glad to have you. If you put your general location in the header you'll have a better chance of meeting up with members living within visiting distance. Glenn isn't offering an appraisal, he's offering practical advise regarding equipment and location. Blacksmithing tools and equipment, anvils especially tend to have asking prices inflated into fantasy land. Folk prefacing their ads with words like, "vintage, antique, historic, etc." are using buzz words to run the price up. You don't WANT to pay a bloated price do you? Location can make a huge difference say, If you live in the upper midwest anvils like that would go for less than half what they'd get in Alaska. Seriously, I know from experience. Guys up here often buy new and pay shipping rather than buy used locally. To address your original question, do you have pics showing the markings, the weight, etc? It's unrealistic to expect specific answers to vague questions. Many of us are here because we enjoy helping folks out but we need to know enough to do some good without blue sky guesses. Hmmmm? Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stash Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Kinda resembles a Refflinghouse- I think they put the upsetting block and side table on the same side. Or one of the other S German mfg. Joey V has been around the last few days- I'd wait for him to pop in. And as above, more detailed pix well help a lot. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Forge Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 6 hours ago, Frosty said: Glenn isn't offering an appraisal, he's offering practical advise regarding equipment and location. Blacksmithing tools and equipment, anvils especially tend to have asking prices inflated into fantasy land. Hey, I understand. The second photo shows all the markings on the anvil. A date on the main body (1938) a weight (192 kg) and what I’m guessing is some type of serial number (J430) It is of course German but aside from that I’ve not seen any makers marks and I am too unfamiliar with the nuances of the early 20th century anvil designs to be able to figure out any more info about it. Any help to ID manufacturer would be incredibly appreciated. (it’s in Germany, I’m American but living in Europe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 DANG! Teach me to not enlarge pics before hitting the keys! I'll just kick back and follow along, I'm no anvil guru, I'm more a NA propane burner guy but I'm always interested in stuff blacksmitherly. That is a beautiful anvil and it's condition looks tip top. Doesn't stop us from shooting the breeze though. like puns? Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Forge Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) She’s dang near my dream anvil if not exactly it. And for the price…. I almost feel bad just saying it Edited May 22, 2023 by Mod30 Excessive quoting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 SHHHHHH! Don't say it but now you've let the cat out of the bag and people are starting to wonder you should hide it somewhere nobody will think to look. <wink wink> Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julianb Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 Hello, this is a very late Söding & Halbach anvil, they sometimes didn't punch in their logo in between the numbers of the year during the last years of production, at least it seems this way. It is No. 58, South-German pattern with side shelf and upsetting block. If the price is right, buy it and take some more detailed pictures, please! Cheers! Julian Edit: And are you sure it is 1938 and not 1936? It certainly looks like an 8, but I cannot tell for sure, from the grainy zoomed in picture. That'd be very interesting, if it was made in 1938! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Forge Posted May 22, 2023 Author Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) Fantastic! I had a feeling it was S&H but I wasn’t sure. The price is beyond right… it’s almost crazy. 500 euros is what I’ve paid for it, god bless the German tool market. I’ll post some nice photos when I’ve got it to my shop. Edited May 22, 2023 by Mod30 Excessive quoting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 Crazy good deal? Where I live that anvil for that price would be sold before the ink dried on the internet ad! I'd brave the wrath of Deb and bring it home! Then I'd put my Trenton up for sale but Deb would still be seething. I've never gotten to work on a double horned anvil but wouldn't mind adding that beauty to my equipment list. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Forge Posted May 22, 2023 Author Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) Yes, that’s not a common price in Germany either, I happened to see it get posted. I saw the thumbnail photo and sent a message before I could even look at the actual photos or the price and thankfully got there first! Got lucky after months of checking notifications religiously. Edited May 22, 2023 by Mod30 Excessive quoting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Never turn your nose up to luck, just don't count to heavily on it. Being religiously vigilant is how you get lucky. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julianb Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Honestly? For 500€ I would’ve passed on that one. Around here there‘s so much cheaper stuff to have, it is just a matter of patience. But hey, that is absolutely luxurious, compared to prices in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Forge Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 Maybe if you find some old grandma and convince her her husbands anvil is worthless but certainly not on Kleinanzeigen. especially not a 200kg S&H with a side shelf in almost perfect condition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewoon ik Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 if you look hard for it, they don't show up. Now since you have bought this one, you will see nicer and cheaper anvils passing by or getting offered. I had the same problem. Have fun using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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