giantdude33 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I am looking for a part for a buffalo 660 downdraft forge. The forge is complete except for the blower and the re-circulation tube that goes from the back of the forge to the blower inlet. I may be able to find the blower but the tube will be a challenge. If anyone knows of someone that has a forge parts junkyard any help is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 That's a tough one; those forges are rare enough to start with, let alone finding spare parts. I would imagine that you could fabricate something, though. Do you have pictures of what you've got so far? We had some other discussion of this a couple of years ago; here's that thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 If you have a good drawing a large truck type muffler shop shouldn't have trouble making the "duct". Of course you can buy exhaust pipe and weld it up yourself. You'll need what, one elbow and a couple short sections, maybe a size adapter? Finding THE parts will be a quest of near D&D proportions, might even run into a sooty old dragon. Frosty The Lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 For interest's sake, here's an image from the Buffalo Forge catalog: For those not familiar with this design, the intake for the blower was connected with the downdraft hood at the back of the forge, so that all the gasses and smoke coming out of the fire would be recycled through the blower and reburned. (This is the same principle as the smoke catcher that Alexander Weygers describes in The Modern Blacksmith.) Here's a view with the hood removed: Note the flap on the tuyere inlet tube; this can be opened to allow fresh air into the blower once the fire is well-established and not producing as much smoke. Here's another view, showing the hood. Note that this has openings both for the downdraft and for an upper flue to remove the final combustion products (carbon monoxide etc). Note that these downdraft forges are not the same as the big stationary forges that Buffalo made that could also be set up with a downdraft flue: The Model 02 D was designed to completely remove all smoke and fumes through the downdraft flue, whereas the downdraft part of the flue on the Model 660 was only for smoke reduction; the final exhaust was still via a standard updraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantdude33 Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 Some folks have asked for pictures so I wanted to include what I have so far. The forge is complete except for the 200 blower and the gas return tube. My father had it buried in his barn for 40 years and I recently rescued it. Please keep me in mind if you run across anyone that may have parts. Many thanks for the responses and assistance. 20 hours ago, Frosty said: If you have a good drawing a large truck type muffler shop shouldn't have trouble making the "duct". Of course you can buy exhaust pipe and weld it up yourself. You'll need what, one elbow and a couple short sections, maybe a size adapter? Finding THE parts will be a quest of near D&D proportions, might even run into a sooty old dragon. Frosty The Lucky. Thanks for the suggestions. I know the quest will be hard but I am hopeful. I am one of those guys that like to restore back to original...I know, it's a sickness. Last year I had a No.3 Buffalo blower missing the 1/2 moon gear and finally found that part so I remain optimistic in my quest. 20 hours ago, JHCC said: That's a tough one; those forges are rare enough to start with, let alone finding spare parts. I would imagine that you could fabricate something, though. Do you have pictures of what you've got so far? We had some other discussion of this a couple of years ago; here's that thread: I have posted some pictures. Many thank for the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWISTEDWILLOW Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 I’ve got a lot of forge parts and parts forges but I ain’t got anything for a an down draft rigs, I’ll keep my eye out here locally though for you, if I come across any parts I’ll let ya know, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 The probabilities are laughably remote but I'll keep an eye out too. Frosty The Lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantdude33 Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 3 hours ago, TWISTEDWILLOW said: I’ve got a lot of forge parts and parts forges but I ain’t got anything for a an down draft rigs, I’ll keep my eye out here locally though for you, if I come across any parts I’ll let ya know, I appreciate your keeping an eye out for me. Thanks in advance for all your help. 3 hours ago, Frosty said: The probabilities are laughably remote but I'll keep an eye out too. Frosty The Lucky. Thank you for your help . It is greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 JHCC is that your forge? I always wanted a 660 with catcher.. Giant dude33 3" auto mobile mandrel bent U will cover you.. Is it cast iron like the original "no".. But it will work and then you can customize it for an exact fit. In 40+ years I've only seen 4 of these... They always have parts missing, are cracked or broken... At some point I might make a new fabricated one because they do work and the design is pretty straight forwards once you see what they were trying to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, jlpservicesinc said: JHCC is that your forge? No, those are a couple of images I grabbed online. My solid fuel forge (currently serving as a junk repository, as I've been burning gas for several years) is described HERE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTINVA Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 We have a buffalo company no 660 forge that has been in in storage for long time (barn find). Seems complete and in fairly good condition - might be selling but cannot seem to find what it might be worth. Any ideas or suggestions on how to find or get it appraised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 For an unusual item like that, a look at the “Sold” listings on eBay is probably your best bet. It’s a very rare item, though, so you may not find anything there. You could check Worthpoint, but that requires a membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Where are you located? Is it a 660 with downdraft hood? The 660 was thier commercial line but the downdraft had to be special ordered. I have a 660 without down draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWISTEDWILLOW Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, HTINVA said: might be selling but cannot seem to find what it might be worth. Any ideas or suggestions on how to find or get it appraised Howdy from eastern Oklahoma and welcome to the forum! you got pictures of it? Condition goes a long ways towards price, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Like Jennifer said it would help to know where in the world you are located. Once you set a price, you could list it in the Tailgating section, after reading the rules for selling there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTINVA Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Thank you for the welcome and info so far. Will be posting some pictures by the weekend. Located in central Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Check with your local ABANA affiliate; they may have a good idea of local market conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWISTEDWILLOW Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 On 3/15/2023 at 7:07 AM, HTINVA said: Will be posting some pictures by the weekend Cant wait!!! Your outta my range but I love seeing rusty stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTINVA Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 My apologies it appears this is a No 6660 buffalo Forge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Still a down-draft forge, if the photos from THIS DISCUSSION THREAD are any indication. Looks like someone went to a lot of trouble to fill in the pan -- is that concrete? Can you show us some photos from behind the blower and hood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Yes, please behind blower and hood. 6660.. I think someone at the factory might have added the extra 6.. The 660 will be on the side of the forge usually.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 6660 does seem to be the correct number; it matches the forge in the post linked in my last comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Yes, yes 6660. I've never seen this number used so is new to me. 660, 243, 843. Still very intrigued by the design. Not as straight forwards to operate as there is more to adjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTINVA Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Some background I found out for the forge; It was purchased from a school county auction in western part of Virginia early to mid 90's. The high school had an Ag Shop class where students would learn blacksmithing and welding - a family member remembers using forge while taking the class. We believe school was using it from the 60's to the 90's. It does appear to be concrete in the pan. Not sure but there appears to be an electric motor underneath as well - could the school have used an alternative fuel source at some point and filled in the pan to support whatever the students were working on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantdude33 Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 Blackwater forge of this forum posted a 6660 with both a hand crank and electric blower attached but had no pictures. PACO312 had a picture of a 6660 posted very similar to yours. If you could post a picture of the back that would be great. It should have a gas return tube connected back to the blower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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