It followed me home

[JHCC]

So, my Christmas present this year was a gift certificate for Ken’s Custom Iron. I expect some goodies to be following me home soon….

[gewoon ik]

On 12/20/2024 at 7:43 PM, Frosty said:

Got you there John!

That's a good looking anvil Gewoon the edges and face don't appear damaged and it only has surface rust. When Americans say, "nice," in a situation like this we're referring to the condition of what we're looking at. Not it's location. 

Frosty The Lucky.

Thanks for explaining the joke. I bet a lot didn't know Nice is a harbour city in south france.

[Frosty]

I was poking a little fun at John, as if he were making a joke. I think most Americans wouldn't think of the French city when using the word, for us it's a descriptive word like good or pretty, etc..

Frosty The Lucky.

[JHCC]

Also, the French pronunciation of “Nice” might make Americans think we were talking about the joints halfway down our legs. 

[gewoon ik]

It is always funny to mention an other city if 'nice' is used in the non location way, if it is used in an response vaguely related to a location.

You can spot the person with humor or geography skills

[Frosty]

Uh huh. Most people I know, realize Nice is pronounced, "Neess," well, the ones my age anyway.

Nice try though John but I'm still going to poke fun at you when opportunity arises. Even if I have to make one up.

Frosty The Lucky.

[JHCC]

3 hours ago, gewoon ik said:

person with humor or geography skills

Or geology, when one considers gneiss. 

[caotropheus]

Today's haul

These "beauties" did not exactly follow me home. I had to pay more than I am willing to admit but for a good cause. The owner of a machine shop had the bad habit of gambling! He passed away and his widow was left with no support except for a meager amount from the social security. His children decided to sell the machine shop to support their mother, so a friend of mine specialized on metal working machinery is helping them to sell two lathes, one mill, one drill press (this one in the picture), all sort of equipment for those machines, all sorts of hand tools and a lot of stock, different steels and aluminium.

The drill press dates back from the 1950's (probably beginning of the 1960's) it accepts Morse 3 tapers, 3 phase, 380 V, 3/4 HP, pillar solid "chunk" of steel, 70 mm diameter, 1.7 m tall

The big slug (180 mm diameter, 270 mm height) is some sort of heat treated steel, weighs around 53 kg, the ball peen hammer does not dent it. The small slug (140 mm diameter, 120 mm height) is mild steel, easily marred by the ball peen hammer, weighs around 14.5 kg.

All in all,  I payed what is considered average for the local market...

 

[Frosty]

Do you use 3 phase 240v as house current in Israel?

Good on you for helping in the good cause. I'll say a few words with higher for her.

Frosty The Lucky.

[gewoon ik]

1 hour ago, Frosty said:

Do you use 3 phase 240v as house current in Israel?

Good on you for helping in the good cause. I'll say a few words with higher for her.

Frosty The Lucky.

I think 220v 1fase and 380v 3fase.

Since he mentions 380v 3fase

 

[caotropheus]

2 hours ago, Frosty said:

Do you use 3 phase 240v as house current in Israel?

Good on you for helping in the good cause. I'll say a few words with higher for her.

Frosty The Lucky.

Here in Israel, same as in Europe, we mostly use 1 phase 220 V - 240 V, 50 to 60 Hz for 99.9% of all apliances. Houses are supplied with 3 phase, but no one asks to install a 3 phase socket at home, except of course, caotropheus! Some people use more powerful air conditioners that may be 3 phase, electricians make all the connections, but no socket of course. I have several 3 phase sockets 380 V, 3 X 40 Amp in my playground

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_electricity_by_country

all my toys are 3 phase like, welder machine, mill, drill press and lathe. 3 phase electrical motors are more simple and easier to maintain.

[Frosty]

Getting 3 phase here is prohibitively expensive, even if it's available at the pole out front it costs many thousands of dollars to get it run in and wired. Don't forget there is an inspector for every step.

Rotary phase converters are easily available for a good reason.

Frosty The Lucky.

[LarryFahnoe]

3 hours ago, caotropheus said:

we mostly use 1 phase 220 V - 240 V, 50 to 60 Hz

Am I understanding that your appliances work within those ranges, or that you actually have differing voltages and frequencies? Here in the US, residential service is typically 60Hz single phase 240V (split into 120V for most circuits). Having 50-60Hz frequencies would seem odd to me, particularly for motors. You're certainly fortunate to have easy access to 3-phase!

--Larry

[caotropheus]

I am no electrician, so I may babble a lot of non-sense. Here in Israel and in Europe we have 240 V 50 Hz. I travel between my home country and my residence country without even looking at "electrical compatibility" for my computer or cellphone power supply. What I see often on home appliances are labels that give both a range of voltage (220 V - 240 V) and frequency range (50 Hz - 60 Hz) they can operate.

At least here in Israel people have several air conditioning throughout the house, a water boiler, a dish washer, laundry machine + laundry dryer, cooking oven, fridge + separated freezer, microwave, often more than half operate simultaneously, that is why private homes are provided with 3 phase X 40 Amp these days.

Oh, I almost forgot, not just we (Europe + Israel) have 3 phase electricity at home, we also live in real houses, you know the ones built on stone, brick and reinforced concrete, not play houses made out of wood and cardboard! 

Edited December 28, 2024 by Mod30
Remove excessive quote.

[LarryFahnoe]

Thank you, that makes sense. Our world has quite a mix of residential power "standards" and I wish I had asked my Dad more questions about the history of this because he was involved with setting standards for international power distribution. Certainly many of us can travel freely with little concern for the power, though not always. Here's a map from wiki that gives a good sense of it.

--Larry

 

[Frosty]

Oh sure, dis us because our houses aren't a couple thousand years old. ANY idea what dressed stone blocks cost here? Of course most of us don't need a place so bullet / bomb resistant. 

Voltage varies here but not HZ. You can buy chargers that use most any wall current with a web search. 

Frosty The Lucky.

[Rojo Pedro]

Was shocked to find coal at the local farm implement supply company.

Turned out that a customer ordered a bag and they sent pallet by mistake.

I don't burn much coal but at $13 bucks a bag I figured I’d get 4. 
 

[Daswulf]

Anthracite coal is usable but it is harder to get started and needs a more constant blast of air. 

Having used and usually use bituminous coal, I found anthraciteto be a bit troublesome after trying a bag of it. I ended up using it up putting some on my bituminous fire here and there. 

[Rojo Pedro]

10-4 Das, I should have started with one bag.

I just finished reading Johns post about anthracite and that was very helpful

[Frosty]

Give it a try Pedro, not all anthracite lives down to the hype, some makes good forge fuel. It's all different, sometimes from the same seam even.

Good score anyway, it works a treat in a wood stove with a little modification.

Frosty The Lucky.

[JHCC]

The good news is that even if you don’t use it right away, it doesn’t spoil!

[JHCC]

Mail call: My first tong blanks from Ken’s Custom Iron, purchased with a gift certificate from my lovely bride. 

Top to bottom: two pairs of Quick bolt tongs, one pair of Quick railroad spike tongs, two pairs of Quick slotted-jaw tongs, one pair of Rapid slotted-jaw tongs, and a bag of the appropriate rivets. 

[JHCC]

First trip back to the industrial surplus place since it reopened (the original owners bought it back after the venture capital people ran it into the ground) and got a few goodies: a tool drawer unit in need of some small repairs, some pipe clamps, and (best of all) a box of 45 grit Trizact belts. These last are 6” x 90”, so all I need to do to make them fit my 2” x 90” grinder is to split them lengthwise in three. Brings the cost down to about $2/belt. 

Also stopped by my steel supplier and got some flat bar drops.

Also got a fresh cylinder of O2 from the welding supply place, but you all know what those look like.

 

[Rojo Pedro]

Good scores. I love Kens tong blanks.

I was also gifted a batch when I first started and they are still my main go-to tongs.

Great for beginners and old hands as well. 

[JHCC]

On 1/2/2025 at 3:42 PM, JHCC said:

split them lengthwise in three.

Thus (split on the left, unsplit on the right):

(The tinsnips are for starting the splits and cutting the splices.)