Master of None Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Good evening all. Anyone know a source for a leg vise replacement handle? Just picked up a 100lb.+ old leg vise with a cobbled mild steel handle. Looks like a pretzel more than a vise handle. The existing handle is about 18” long and 5/8” wide. Thanks…Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 They are very easy to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George N. M. Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 The problem, as I see it, is how to put some kind of a knob on the end of the new handle once it has been inserted into the hole in the end of the screw. It's not very easy moving the whole vice from the forge to the anvil to upset and forge a knob. If it were me, I would cut off one end of the existing one, assuming that it still had its original uniform thickness, forge in straight, then put some threads on the cut end, insert into the hole in the screw end, and thread on a nut to replace the cut off knob. You could weld or otherwise secure the nut to the handle if you wanted to be sure that it didn't back off. Alternatively, you might be able to use an oxy-acetylene torch to heat the bent handle and straighten it in place without having to cut off an end. "By hammer and hand all arts do stand." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 I remove the screw from the vise. Take a piece of 4130 or 5160 normalized, the right diameter and forge weld a ball on one end. To make the ball a piece of square mild steel wrapped around the end of the handle. Put the handle into the screw and forge weld another ball to the other end. Then replace the screw into the vise. Easy as can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George N. M. Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Duh! I hadn't thought of removing the screw from the vise! It shows that Irondragon is a much more experienced smith at this sort of thing than I am. Still a bit awkward to manipulate but a whole lot easier than the entire vise. "By hammer and hand all arts do stand." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luketheviking Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 When I had to repair my bent handle, i removed the screw from the vise and heated the handle in the forge. Im sure cutting the old one off and welding a new end and forging it to a ball wouldnt be super hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 My old frankenvise (now passed on to another smith) had a replacement handle that was basically a 16" rod with a short threaded section at either end, nuts screwed onto those sections, and the ends of the bolt peened over to lock the nuts permanently in place. Not particularly comfortable to use, but functional. I suspect that this was a demonstration of ThomasPowers's adage, "There is nothing half so permanent as a temporary solution." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 I have to credit Bob Patrick for showing how to add a ball on the end of a round bar. He did a demonstration at a BOA meeting years ago. That trick is faster than upsetting the bar to make the ball. The size of the ball is determined by the size of the square stock, scarf the ends, wrap around the bar and forge weld it then shape it into a ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 So; I've never seen one for sale as everybody seems to make their own replacements. If you are a welder weld up one; if you are a smith forge one; if you are neither cultivate friends who are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Mine is simply a solid rod treaded for pipe fittings and fitted with pipe caps, intact for the longest time one was plastic.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anvil Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Ive replaced a few and did them like Irondragon says above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adair Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 One option I've used before that hasn't yet been mentioned is a mortise and tenon joint. I forged a new handle with an integral knob on one end and a round tenon on the other. The tenon need only be very slight. I forged a ball of matching size and drilled a hole to match the tenon and followed with a large countersink. I set the tenon with a torch heat, handle held in another vise. Some file work on the end and the tenon head disappeared. -A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of None Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 Thanks for all the suggestions. Here is a photo of the vise. I haven’t found any markings, but I think it might be Peter Wright. $47.00 at auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 The whole screw and screwbox are replacements in my opinion. I'd go up a size or two on the handle even if you have to redrill the hole! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George N. M. Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 I agree with Thomas again. The handle, in particular, looks like a replacement from the original, too long and too thin. And it looks like a square nut on the end. If the screw works OK leave it alone but the handle can be upgraded. "By hammer and hand all arts do stand." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 I was hinting that "It's not original so don't worry about modifying it more!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I agree... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 A straightened length of coil spring makes a nice vise handle, it doesn't bend so easily as mild. I don't have anything to add to the above methods for replacing the ends. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 They don't have to be spheres. You could bend circles in the ends of the rod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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