ThomasPowers Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 The interesting thing is that most bloomery furnaces can produce anything from a relatively zero carbon iron, through high carbon steels and even cast iron. Sometimes the bloomery might produce all three in a very inhomogeneous mess. This is why the Japanese swordsmith evaluates the metal produced by the tatara and builds up billets of different carbon contents. This, of course was an issue in earlier times---you forge a sword one day and it's soft another day and you get one that shatters in quench or burns at a lower temp. Took a long while to figure out how to effectively work higher carbon steels---till they did figure it out Not quench hardening was a lot safer. Not only blades, when looking at European Armour over time, the size of the plates got larger and larger until they started using medium to high carbon steels and hardening them by quenching---then the plate size dropped to much smaller ones easier to work and heat treat. As the technology advanced the plate size went back up. (The Knight and the Blast Furnace, The Royal Armories at Greenwich a History of their Technology; Alan Williams.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris the Chicken Smith Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 Thank you so much, everyone! Wikipedia can be accurate for some things and inaccurate for others. My teachers argue about it all the time at school. Thank you Mr. Monsson, I'll be sure to include you in my sources. I'll be back soon with my mark; I'll be passing my paper in momentarily. Wish me luck! -Chris Sorry I missed you, Thomas. I'll have to do some more reading on Japanese swordsmiths, they definitely knew their stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris the Chicken Smith Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 Is there anywhere to hear the Blacksmiths' song, George? From the lyrics it seems like it would sound amazing. Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frosty Posted Thursday at 05:12 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:12 PM Chris: Did you search, "The Blacksmith Song"? I got several pages in lots of languages in a couple seconds. This is from the first row. https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video;_ylt=AwrVBLuQsP1flw8AZhj7w8QF;_ylu=c2VjA3NlYXJjaAR2dGlkAw--;_ylc=X1MDOTY3ODEzMDcEX3IDMgRhY3RuA2NsawRjc3JjcHZpZAMyNnI0bmpFd0xqSU5CdHJEWEd5WC53QjROalF1TkFBQUFBQ19iMXFYBGZyA2NybWFzBGZyMgNzYS1ncARncHJpZAMybXBkbG9kblFBMmpXNGJGWWZzX3hBBG5fcnNsdAM2MARuX3N1Z2cDMARvcmlnaW4DdmlkZW8uc2VhcmNoLnlhaG9vLmNvbQRwb3MDMARwcXN0cgMEcHFzdHJsAwRxc3RybAMyNQRxdWVyeQNUaGUlMjBibGFja3NtaXRoJ3MlMjBzb25nBHRfc3RtcAMxNjEwNjQ0MDI2?p=The+blacksmith's+song&ei=UTF-8&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Av%2Cm%3Asa&fr=crmas#id=3&vid=04f83f8658a18a5f20a31b3621314ea5&action=view Sorry about the size of the link, Tinyurl isn't working for me today. <sigh> Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JHCC Posted Thursday at 05:13 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:13 PM Frosty, you can edit a link to change the text that displays. Open the comment in Edit, right click on the link, and make your changes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris the Chicken Smith Posted Thursday at 05:22 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 05:22 PM I had searched for it, but I didn't find anything... Maybe I'm just bad at searching for things... Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frosty Posted Thursday at 05:24 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:24 PM I don't see way to change it to a decent length link or say a symbol or(?) in edit. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JHCC Posted Thursday at 06:30 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:30 PM See How to edit a link. (And my instructions above were a bit off; my apologies.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Irondragon ForgeClay Works Posted Friday at 01:23 AM Share Posted Friday at 01:23 AM On 1/13/2021 at 7:31 AM, Chris the Chicken Smith said: Is there anywhere to hear the Blacksmiths' song, THis from Frosty's link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHvUEeEE6Q4&feature=emb_logo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
George N. M. Posted Friday at 02:35 AM Share Posted Friday at 02:35 AM Also, listen to "Cold Iron" by Rudyard Kipling as sung by Leslie Fish at: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris the Chicken Smith Posted Friday at 03:24 AM Author Share Posted Friday at 03:24 AM Cold Iron is my favourite poem! It’s beautiful. I was just on my way back to listen to “our” song. I’ve added “by hammer and hand all arts do stand” to the end of my paper, then passed it in... fingers crossed! Thanks again for all of your knowledge and experience! I’ll use this as my question asking thread until it becomes obsolete and I need to make a new one... and I’ll be sure to post my mark back here. I’ll be back in a few minutes with my opinion of the song. Chris That song isn’t bad, but not George’s version... the lyrics sound so majestic... “To the mem’ry of Vulcan our voices we’ll raise, May he and his sons be revered thro’ the land; May they thrive root and branch, and enjoy happy days For by Hammer and Hand all arts do stand.” it’s from Worshipful Blacksmiths’ Company, as I’m sure you know. https://blacksmithscompany.co.uk/history/the-blacksmiths-song/ It also says this... I thought there would be a recording somewhere... ”The Blacksmiths' Song was composed by a Past Prime Warden, Moses Kipling, in 1828; it is sung every year at the Company Banquet in Mansion House” I’ve listened to some others, as well... they’re all pretty good, just not talking about Vulcan and such... -Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThomasPowers Posted Friday at 05:16 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:16 PM Sounds like a drinking song to me and rather similar to others from that period. In the SCA a lot of R Kipling's songs have been put to music; I always found the Picts Song to be a great blade filing song, especially sitting around a campfire on a dark night... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris the Chicken Smith Posted Monday at 06:39 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 06:39 PM It does sound like a drinking song, now that you mention it... Thanks, Thomas. Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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