ThomasPowers Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Smaller barrels were used to ship grease to mechanic shops; did you check there for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 James Hookway is based in England, I believe, and 45s may be more common there; I really don't know. However, I do know folks who've built that design (and similar ones) with a 55 gal outer drum and been quite happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Not to mention the difference between the US gallon and Imperial gallon! 45 imperial gallons is 54 US gallons which sounds a lot like a 55 gallon barrel to me! Anybody want to crash a *VERY* expensive machine on a different planet's surface because they don't take UNIT differences into account! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 52 minutes ago, ThomasPowers said: Anybody want to crash a *VERY* expensive machine on a different planet's surface because they don't take UNIT differences into account! I believe Air Canada pilots practiced that one successfully in a 767 during the SAE to metric change. Dead sticked a Boeing 767 onto a decommissioned air base during a weekend swap meet. Dubbed the "Gimli Glider," it was one of those truly awesome examples of flying out there. Oh, yeah it ran out of fuel, instead of kilos it got x pounds from the truck and was mismarked on the paperwork. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 The world will be much simpler when we all agree on *one* system of measurements. Lose some of the fun quirkiness too,...now where did I put my Royal Cubit scale... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon ForgeClay Works Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Probably with your "rule of thumb". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Nope; my wife told me she would use her "rule of Cast Iron Skillet" instead of my rule of thumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George N. M. Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I found that during my geologist days the best older reports on an area you wanted to work in often had units in odd measurements, e.g., poods per arpent. It sometimes made for interesting conversions. "By hammer and hand all arts do stand." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 One of my first jobs in International Field Support at Bell Labs was to correlate what our specs were with a set of European standards. The one that I remember best was: we spec'd the system to work over an altitude range and the European standard was in kilopascals (a pascal is one newton per square meter as we all know!) I had to work that one from both ends to finally get something I could compare. Lots of fun; we even had a spec for sedimentation rate of dust.---though installing a system in Jakarta Indonesia I noticed the lizards in the machine room and wondered if we had a spec for "wildlife".) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Nice try Thomas, you almost got us! EVERYBODY knows Pascal is Rapunzel's pet chameleon! Kilopascal, do chameleons get that big? I don't think I've met one that weighed a kilo. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I though a chameleon was what you got when you painted camo blotches all over your carillon? (Stand in Yaw of my towering wit!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I'm pretty sure it's a dromedary in Spain. I mock your wit with a hearty guffaw! Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I'm glad you're using Stout stuff for your mock-ups, would it be Guinness or are you not avoiding the Draft? Been to Spain a number of times; I've always thought Yunquera would be a good place for a blacksmith's shop or a painter's atlatl---you could forge Goya's "The Forgers"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Yes, I are avoiding draft we don't have room for a keg and staying clear of taverns. Is that like Columbia and Folgers? Whicha brewing? Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I'm a traditionalist: "filet of fenny snake, eye of newt and toe of frog, wool of bat and tongue of dog, adder's fork and blindworm's sting, lizard's leg and howlet's wing" It's basically a toned down version of Kickapoo Joy Juice, ("an elixir of such power that the fumes alone have been known to melt the rivets off battleships.") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris the Chicken Smith Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 I miss the whole conversation when we start a new page... *sigh* I didn't know the conversion there... but I do have a barrel now, so I think it should be fine. I'll work with what I have. I'll post pictures of my progress over the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris the Chicken Smith Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 So the ground's about to freeze... I won't get an actual bloomery done until the spring probably. I still don't have everything I need for my retort, and I have to admit I was fairly lazy. Written report it is, on the same subject. However I need "valid" sources now. You guys are reluctantly being considered as one source, a local friend of mine as another... I made a youtube playlist of the majority of the videos I've watched of smiths making or refining iron, however I don't think I'm allowed to use that as a source, since they could be invalidating what they're saying... what's your opinion on that? Black Bear forge, Torbjörn Åhman, Joey van der Steeg, as well as a few others, who are well known to be awesome... in your opinion, would they be a trusted source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Sells Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Joey is a member here, you can ask him yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris the Chicken Smith Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 Joey?! My hero?! Oh my goshhhhhhhhh!!! Hi! Hope you notice me! I'll just consider you a valid source. (I came back a few minutes later.) Sorry about freaking out... I just think Joey is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnut Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 This may be helpful. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0305440310004449 This book is chock-full of good info but pricey. Maybe find it at your local public or university library. "Tales of the Iron Bloomery (Northern World) Bert Rundberget ISBN 978-9004278790 hope it helps with citations etc Pnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris the Chicken Smith Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 Thanks, pnut! I'll see if I can find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnut Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 The link is for a paper. I believe you can view it for free. Pnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 "The Mastery and Uses of Fire in Antiquity", Rehder could be a source. Can you find any published proceedings from the Iron Masters conferences? I had friends who presented on 10 years of Scandinavian Short Stack Bloomery experiments at one of the conferences. Medieval Iron in Society; papers presented at they symposium in Norberg Metallurgy in Archeology, R.F. Tylecote Early Iron and Steel in Sri Lanka, Gillian Juleff; perhaps as a compare and contrast source for other areas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Rick Furrer smelts ore in a bloomery, refines to finished swords. He's been featured on the Discovery Channel. "The Viking Sword" I think. He reproduced the Uthbert sword. (spelling is from memory and probably wrong.) I believe JPH has made bloomery iron and refines it finished blades as well. Could be wrong though. They're both members here, give them a shout and ask. You can search them out and send a PM. That way nobody can feel put on the spot. Citing me as a reliable source would NOT be correct, I just read a lot I've never participated with or watched a bloom. Unless you need something just made up I'm pretty good at that. I'll confess immediately if called on it though. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 6 hours ago, Frosty said: He reproduced the Uthbert sword. (spelling is from memory and probably wrong. Ulfberht. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/video/secrets-of-the-viking-sword/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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