EJRailRoadTrack Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 On March 26, 2017 at 10:00 PM, littleblacksmith said: Is this cable damascus? I love the pattern so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-1ToolSteel Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Don't forget to delete the pics when you quote! Don't want the curmudgeons after ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 One photo was needed to illustrate the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donniev Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Made a few pairs of tongs this week to hold larger stock. Left and right pairs hold 2", middle pair holds 1 1/4 and 3/4". Wasn't until I had em riveted that I realized I forgot to make a set down on both sides....But, they work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camerican Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Made a set of box jaw bolt tongs with welded reins. No forge welding yet. Just flux core it. Ugly but functional. Only the 2nd set of tongs I ever made. Will work for now. Trying to get the curves symmetrical is hard!!! All in the learning process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausfire Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Not ugly at all! Tongs are designed to hold the work firmly and safely. That rail spike is going nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedgemon Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Camerican and Donniev, what steel did you two use for your tongs ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donniev Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 1/2" mild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ling Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 9:14 PM, EJRailRoadTrack said: Is this cable damascus? I love the pattern so much! Yep, cable Damascus. Thanks! Saturday I went to the scrap yard, then came back and forged some strap hinges for my shop doors. Thanks jlpservicesinc for the how to video! Fast foreword to today. I was sick yesterday and woke up a little better but still sick today. Fever, lost my voice, sore throat, head ache, etc... I don't really like staying still and doing nothing, and so I had to do something. So, today I wire wheeled all the cast iron I picked up at the scrap yard the other day with the angle grinder, and seasoned it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camerican Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 15 hours ago, swedgemon said: Camerican and Donniev, what steel did you two use for your tongs ?? I use mild steel only. Save the coil springs for punches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judson Yaggy Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Some shop time, but a lot more time on installs the last few weeks. Shop work was some polished stainless mounts for a custom shower rod and some handles. Then some pics of the spiral stair rail I showed parts of earlier. And some hinges, both real and "fake" for a high end hidden refrigerator I also built the timber trusses and hardware for this same kitchen last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Really nice work, Judson. That staircase is a masterpiece of restrained sophistication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergely Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Wow, Judson! Awesome works you done there! And those fake hinges are really cool I spent the work day with procrastinating: instead of finishing a commissioned french easel I continued the work on the parang inspired by Templehound. Got the forging and pre-grinding done, now I have to find out how to heat treat it. I have a forge wich allows me to heat up max 1'/30 cm long stock if I move the stock back and forth. This blade is twice as long so gotta find another way... In the picture there is the bearing similar to the starting stock. Bests: Gergely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Dig a trench forge in the dirt. I made a tuyere of a long section of black pipe and ran mine off a shop vac exhaust with the gap and concentricity controlling the air flow. When done fill with dirt till the next time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergely Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, ThomasPowers said: Dig a trench forge in the dirt. I made a tuyere of a long section of black pipe and ran mine off a shop vac exhaust with the gap and concentricity controlling the air flow. When done fill with dirt till the next time! Excellent idea, Thomas! Thank you. I even have a spare forge blower I can use. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergely Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 So I did make a trench forge. It worked like a charm. Used charcoal as fuel, because I couldn't provide anough airflow for coal. Was a great experience to see how I am able to heat up long stock. This was the tempering setup, only turned the U-channel toe down after it heated up. But something went wrong with the HT, the blade broke in half after tempering, when I hit a piece of wood with it. I have several theories about what could have caused the crack in the blade. The crack was there before the tempering - at least I think so based on the different tempering colors of a part of the broken surface. Nevermind, I still have an 11" long blade small parang left. It is tough enough, I tried to break it It was real silly of me using scrap 52100 for a blade of this size. It sure was fun, and procrastination still rules... Bests: Gergely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ling Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) Today- Forged a large radius top fuller. Forged from 2" round (imagine forging the billet from that), all done with out a striker except for the last 2 heats which were to isolate the striking end and bit from the cheeks. Then forged what is probably the worst bolster plate! the part closest to the handle I will drill a 1/4" hole, 3/16", and 1/8". And will drift out a 1/4" square hole. its fine that its bad, because I probably wont use it much, I just made it because I didn't have one! Also forged a quick and dirty drawknife out of an old high carbon WI buggy spring. This will stay in my shop deffinantly! not good enough to leave!! Today was alright, not a bad day, but things didn't end up pretty, but functional, so that's good. Littleblacksmith Edited April 23, 2017 by littleblacksmith making pics smaller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-1ToolSteel Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Don't fall into the "it has to be perfect" trap! I remember hearing somewhere "if it was perfect, it wouldn't be handmade". I wouldn't be the slightest bit ashamed to sell all three of those things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalcain2 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 what C-1 said. i think they are great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozenforge Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Toilet paper holder fo a buddies cabin. Not very much forging but still fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausfire Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 That is way cool! The roll is certainly secure! I like the industrial look. I like the look of your avatar too. I am intrigued. Could you perhaps post a full picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba682 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I think thats the best tp holder i've seen in a long time i think the father in law is gettin one for his cabin .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedgemon Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Gergely That trench forge is inspiring - good work! While I have never tried to make a knife that long from 52100, I have made several "bowie-type" knives from both large bearing rollers, balls and races. In my fumbling attempts I have found that 52100 will develop stress fractures if you continue forging down to a dull red temp...the forging temp has to be kept much hotter than most other alloys. I had much better luck with balls and rollers...races gave too many problems. In my work (my real job) I had access to paper mill, cement plant, large quarry and heavy industrial maintenance operations, so getting balls and rollers (as well as some brass cages) was greatly facilitated. H1 is another steel that must be kept very hot - in addition, it must be worked "slowly". H1 makes great punches and chisels - I got a few pieces (leader pins) from a forging plant scrap pile years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ling Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 9 hours ago, C-1ToolSteel said: I remember hearing somewhere "if it was perfect, it wouldn't be handmade". yeah, and then I was told I was wrong. Littleblacksmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergely Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 7 hours ago, swedgemon said: Gergely That trench forge is inspiring - good work! While I have never tried to make a knife that long from 52100, I have made several "bowie-type" knives from both large bearing rollers, balls and races. In my fumbling attempts I have found that 52100 will develop stress fractures if you continue forging down to a dull red temp...the forging temp has to be kept much hotter than most other alloys. I had much better luck with balls and rollers...races gave too many problems. In my work (my real job) I had access to paper mill, cement plant, large quarry and heavy industrial maintenance operations, so getting balls and rollers (as well as some brass cages) was greatly facilitated. H1 is another steel that must be kept very hot - in addition, it must be worked "slowly". H1 makes great punches and chisels - I got a few pieces (leader pins) from a forging plant scrap pile years ago. Thanks! Interesting thing: I like better the balls and rollers too. It's more work to get them into shape but still... But in this case there was no way to use anything else then a whole inner race. (As I wanted to use bearing steel.) Also the one you mentioned was my first idea about developing the crack: I remember to hit the not warm enough metal with the power hammer. There was at least two times when that happened. The second source could have been when I grabbed the hot blade with a big, cold pair of tongs. It was big mistake to do so but I just couldn't do anything else to save some blade parts from burning. I had no appropriate access to the workpiece while it was in the trench forge. And radiating heat forced me to switch to big tongs. In those seconds I remember saying it to myself: All right now I messed this up... Anyway I started to grind the remained blade part. It almost looks like a knife now, although not in this picture. Still much to do but hopefully no major errors anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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