HojPoj Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Also look for old microwaves being sent to the tip, when the magnetron is disassembled you get a couple of decent ring magnets- I've amassed a few over time and they certainly help on my small anvil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 That reminds me: I have a defunct microwave that I need to disassemble for the magnets. Thanks, HojPoj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelonian Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Please be careful disassembling magnetrons. Most have a fragile beryllium oxide ceramic insulator that can easily break and become airborne. Breathing any of the dust can lead to Berylliosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkie Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Also, be aware that most microwaves contain a large capacitor that stores a large amount of energy. If you don't know how to safely discharge that capacitor, you could be in a lot of trouble! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Hmm...probably more trouble than it's worth. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donal Harris Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Old microwaves have two very powerful magnets inside. Just be careful you don’t touch the capacitor unless you first drain it. I am not sure if the shock would kill, but it would hit you pretty hard. Another concern is the magnetron. Some contain beryllium oxide which is a carcinogen. Do not break the ceramic center of the magnetron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohowson Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 Thing is, if I could get to somewhere with old microwaves I could get to somewhere with old speakers - or old chain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HojPoj Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Not sure how trash collection occurs in your area. Around here there's bulk pickup weeks where such stuff is put to the curb for the claw truck to come by and pick it up. Those would be the opportunities while doing 'necessary' errands ;-) As for the capacitor, I've not come across one that DIDN'T have a bleed resistor on it (something like 1MegaOhm). by the time someone goes to throw an old microwave out it should have done its job and discharged the cap. As with most high power electronics, have a pair of rubber gloves and a sacrificial screwdriver handy to be sure the job's done all the way. Thanks for the heads up on that ceramic- I was unaware of its composition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohowson Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 no, if something like that goes you either hide it inside the bin and hope the collectors don’t notice or are responsible for taking it to the council recycling centre. All of which are shut due to lockdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnut Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 In ky when I worked for the local waste collection company if it wasn't a designated large refuse pick up day we had free rein to leave anything sitting that we deemed too heavy or inappropriate for the landfill. The customers also had the right to call and protest and complain. You'd be surprised by what people thought they could throw out just because it was in the garbage can. I've found cans full of rocks, full paint cans, and all manner of ridiculously heavy things. The actual rule was cans couldnt be over fifty pounds. This was before the days of garbage trucks with hydraulic lifts and we did everything by back and brawn. Pnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 In Ohio we went from cans to 80 gallon plastic bins to 300 gallon plastic bins. As I had a double lot it was not unusual to find the neighbors' 300 gallon bins in my yard, 900 gallons of trash picked up on an irregular basis! Till I made a fuss that it was their trash it went on their yard! As these were along an alleyway a lot of stuff was dumped in them in the middle of the night, Construction refuse, etc---of course we were not allowed to lock them. I think the worse was 3 huge carp that got dumped and were perfuming the air for over a week one summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluerooster Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 What about a bucket of concrete, and leather strap hanging on the horn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 That would get in the way of forging, plus the first time you bump the strap with a hot iron, you're either burning through or creating a weak spot that won't hold up in the long run. Either way, there's a bucket of concrete dropping to the floor, and you don't want that. (Although if you insist, I have some cool metatarsal protectors made of aluminum and rubber, and would be happy to sell you my extra pair for cheap.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoleaf Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Another source of magnets is old computer hard drives (need to destroy the drive...and it needs to be one of the old spinning platter types). While not big, the magnets are pretty strong and might be used in combination with some metal to dampen the ring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 I have clamped a pair of Vise Grips on the heel to deaden ring. Others have used a bar dropped through the hardy or pritchel hole. I have seen weights hanging off of horns too. As Glenn said, you want to disrupt the vibrations, so the item needs to throw them off in some way. The horn and heel act like a tuning fork, so that is where the best work is done for quieting an anvil, not the waist. I am not a fan of chains on the waist, and used speaker magnets on my Soderfors. My main anvil is a Fisher, so ringing is not an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 I think the best way to deaden the ring is to set the base in cheap calking compound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donal Harris Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I agree. Silicone layer with anvil tightly secured to the base. Magnet under the heel and side of cutting step if the anvil has one if needed. Just the silicone and clamping the anvil to the base tightly will eliminate almost all the ring on most anvils. Currently mine has chain wraps. They get in the way and the sound dampening was no better than it was on my prior mount which was just a layer of silicone with bars over the feet and attached to base. Some day I will remove the chains and go back to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I find the best way to dampen an anvil is just mount it solidly and bolt the stand and anvil together with pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anvil Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I'm a dirt floor kinda guy so my anvil stump sits 2+' in the ground. I then inset my anvil into the top. The inset is deep enough for an inch or so of sand. The fit is tight so no vibration and the sand deadens the sound. Best of all, no buggers or traps around my forging area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 It is a great old fashioned way to go.. In the old days Cutler anvils sat in a hole the depth needed for the correct height, and that would eventually be filled with scale. Once that scale fills in and settles from vibration it's nearly part of the base structure itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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