ThomasPowers Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Back in the mid 1950's my Father getting an electrical engineering degree was still required to design steam engines and forge a screwdriver in some of the required ancillary classes. Chipping chisels go right along with chipping vises---generally large cast iron vises used to hold castings while they were whittled down to size/shape with hammer and chisels. When you see a 150 to 200 pound machinist vise they were generally chipping vises. Might find if there are any ex-machinists in their 90's who still have their memory and can discuss the old days/old ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Everybody in metal shop 1, my first in jr. high had to make a screw driver and draw file square stock cubes as required project. Dad had my screw driver on a shelf by his desk and an ashtray I'd cast in that same class on his desk for decades after he quit smoking. Can you imagine a modern metal shop class that had an ashtray as one of the choices for a required project? Heck, the one I made wasn't the only ashtray on the list. We did some chipping but not much at all, mostly to break welds or cut weld scarfs in plate. The bevel for weld prep was called a "scarf" at the time. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 In middle school we lathed a center punch or nail set and cast an Al trivet. No forging though the shop had a Johnson Heat treat forge/furnace. O-A welding. My "final" project was a house number holder I designed and used a DiAcro bender on the curlicues and then welded together. It's still in use outside of my Mother's house about 50 years later. I really should make her a *nice* one now that I know how to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 Found a diagram on different chisels and the combined practical blacksmithing book chapter 3 talks about chipping so I’m gonna have to buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 The cape chisel if off a little profile wise.. There was also a section that talked about where you start to forge if the bar is 5, 6, 8 or 10 sided. there is actually supposed to be a correct and not correct way for each 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 Huh interesting. I was referred to another book “american blacksmithing toolsmiths' and steelworkers' manual” but I’m having a hard time finding it in a physical copy. It seems to be a good resource though. written in 1876 if I read correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 32 copies of 'american blacksmithing toolsmiths' and steelworkers' manual' listed over at abebooks.com including a bunch of "print on demand" lots of those from India. Also a mention that a copy was "Published by Sears, Roebuck and Co., Chicago, 1907" I'll have to check my early Sears Roebuck catalogs for it and see what else they list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 Thanks Thomas! That solves my problem of not finding it. Plus it’s not 100$ like the only other copy I was able to find so that’s a bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 I’ve had an anvil offered to me and I just wanted to post it because it looks very similar to my anvil. A bit different and likely a bit bigger but nonetheless very similar. This is his anvil - This is my anvil its at a great price but I doubt I will buy it unless it turns out to be quite a bit bigger than mine. Although it looks to be around maybe 175-200 pounds. Mine is 150. I’ve asked for markings so hopefully there will be a weight stamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Looks like a Trenton to me but can't make out the logo or weight to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 It’s peter wright 157 pounds. A good deal for my area at 500$ so just over 3$ a pound. But my anvil is 150 pounds so I will pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 OK, I noticed mouse traps on both anvil stands, must be a new trend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 Haha. He put it in for scale and I did just to get a idea of scale compared to my anvil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 And a snappy trend too. Works to provide scale for me. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 Half round swage 16mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 'American Blacksmithing Toolsmiths' and Steelworkers' Manual' .... "Published by Sears, Roebuck and Co., Chicago, 1907" I'll have to check my early Sears Roebuck catalogs for it and see what else they list. Well I checked in my 1911 copy of "Modern Machine Shop Practice" and they didn't have a lot on chisels in it though they did discuss chipping a bit and suggested a 1.75 pound hammer with 16" handle and bringing it up so it's vertical at the shoulder in doing it. Funny; in the back they did have an ad for American Blacksmithing Toolsmiths' and Steelworkers' Manual Published by Sears, Roebuck and Co it was about US$2 if mailed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted July 20, 2020 Author Share Posted July 20, 2020 Sounds like I got a new hammer to make! Thanks for the info! Also I wish I could still get that book for 2$ haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 Built my first propane forge today k26 bricks in a steel shell. Gets nice and toasty. forced air. I’ll be costing it in refractory soon. 5ish minuets to heat 1.75” round from cold 4x6x9 inch chamber. For a total of 216 cubic inches. Figured I didn’t need a massive forge so I went with a medium small one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 A rather ugly pair of handled tools. A hot cut and tool eye punch. Forged from 4140. Made so I could test out a freshly restored draw knife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 Ground hardened and tempered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 Got a post drill for $10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latticino Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Nothing ugly about those top tools. Look quite functional. You stole that post drill. It even came with a chuck (though the auto-advance doesn't look complete). Not going to share what I paid for mine, but it was a different order of magnitude... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 I didn’t try it real well but it was functional in the way it spins at least. I think it still works. But I’m sure I can come up with something if the advance feature doesn’t work / is incomplete. Even if I can’t for 10$ I can always resell it for more as a decoration or something So I won’t really be losing money regardless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 I love post drills.. I own 2 only because the shop is not up. One of my favorite tools and was an early purchase. Congrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 They are definitely cool looking. I’d like to get a real large one to go with this fairly small one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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