Justin Topp Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 Hahah maybe it’s a good thing it’s not so nice then. You will never loose it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted May 27, 2020 Author Share Posted May 27, 2020 I over calculated stock size so it’s huge but here’s today’s work. It will go in the acid tomorrow. Wrought iron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted May 27, 2020 Author Share Posted May 27, 2020 Bottle opener is finished Wrought iron is very nice looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnskij Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 I have to say I really love that chisel of yours! I've been wanting to make a similar one with a w2 bit for a while and have all the materials picked out. The forge welding part is daunting though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Bonnskij They are not that bad.. Watch part 1 and 2.. Easy really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 Thanks! Yea they are pretty fun and honestly not too hard. I used square stock and a guillotine to isolate all the parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnskij Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 8 hours ago, jlpservicesinc said: Bonnskij They are not that bad.. That's reassuring. Your video is actually the reason I want to make a chisel in the first place. It's one of my most viewed and favourite forging videos. I probably have to dig up the backyard again and find find the bag of charcoal to have a shot at the forge welding part though. Justin: Haven't got any square stock, but I've got some wagon wheel rim. I reckon that should do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 the hardest part is getting all the handle bits together. Refinement from there as in blade is pretty straight forwards. Bonnskij If you have a wagon tire.. You have nearly any size material you need. I mean within reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 For chisel stock from a rim you probably want to take a piece from around the curve and not across the width to get the grain aligned better. If it's real coarse you may want to refine it a bit first too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnskij Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 I wish I had a whole tire. I only have three pieces totalling about a kilo or so. Still big enough pieces for any size chisel bar framing or turning chisels I reckon. Must be a narrow rim, because there is no way it's wide enough for chisel stock on the cross section. I might go ahead and clean up a piece and check it for coarseness next then. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 So I did a few things today. To start I made a treadle hammer that works okay. More of an experiment than anything. Made from scraps. I used my chisel to shape a few bits of wood On this and it works great! Next I messed with some rebar. Folded up to 54 layers and it had a pattern? I’m assuming the rust on it reacted with the CO in the coal forge and converted back into iron? It’s ASTM A617 grade according to the markings on it. So supposedly rerolled axels unless I’m mistaken. so I started by flattening it and cutting it to make 3 layers next I folded it in 3rds 2 times to go to 9 than 27 layers than I folded in half to get 54 layers. I cleaned and etched and it’s showing some pattern. I’m gonna twist it tomorrow. This was useless I know I was just experimenting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Generally rust just scales off and doesn't get reconverted into iron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzkill Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 9 hours ago, Justin Topp said: Next I messed with some rebar. Folded up to 54 layers and it had a pattern? I’m assuming the rust on it reacted with the CO in the coal forge and converted back into iron? I believe this is generally attributed to the thin decarb layer at the surface of each piece. It's the same reason you can get a pattern on forge welded cable that is all the same alloy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 I had read about it so I was just guessing there, Buzzkill- I think your probably correct. It’s shiny just like how cable is shiny in the non etched parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 flux will also impart a line.. No flux, no line.. Interesting concept but true. Justin, so now that you have a chance to test the foot hammer are you going to refine it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Does it depend on the type of the flux? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 Ah very interesting. as for the hammer I’m going to be finding a better anvil. A block of steel perhaps and a larger hammer and Move the treadle to the front and use it like a normal one and not go from the side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Thomas, I don't know.. I do know what fluxless welds if done well and correct there is no layering effect.. What does "Well and correct" mean.. I'm not sure.. A properly set forge for welding temps without decarb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Justin, that type of treadle hammer was known as an Oliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 Ah didn’t know that thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Modified the treadle hammer a bit for more swing so I can fit top tools and added a pilot so it always hits in the same exact place. Hits much harder now and much more accurately. Now to make it more solid and figure out how to add a motor ... haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Today is not my day......, this coat was brand new. I mean I have worn it for about 30 minutes total. The last coat I had identical to that one lasted months of being hit by scale and flux and sparks and this one somehow burned when it was like 12 feet away up wind?? I dunno. Also This hammer was really out of proportion and ugly started out fine but just went wrong so that’s a bag of coal and 2.5 hours wasted. And my forge lining decided to start crumbling after surviving with no damage for the year and a half I’ve used it and the 100 before that. I’m calling it quits before I ruin anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Little bits of scale don't care which way the wind is blowing and 12' isn't very far. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris C Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I've been considering a thin doe-skin shirt for that very reason, Justin. I had a flannel shirt do that one day while I was Oxy-Acetylene welding back in the 70's. Didn't even know I was on fire because it was just smoldering and I was leaning over. The smoldering material wasn't touching my skin. When I stood up it didn't take me long to get out of my shirt!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Topp Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 The weirdest part is the fact the last one I had would be showered in sparks and molten flux and stuff and wouldn’t care where that ignited with a tiny spark. At least it’s summer so i can go without one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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