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5S forge (Clint)

Junkyard anvil/swage block

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Hello guys, 

This is my first time posting although I spend roughly 15-20 hrs per week browsing the forum because my job is equipment maintenance in a automotive factory.  So i can sit in my area and browse around the web while equipment is running good. 

First off , Thank you to the people that spend so much time posting projects and information  and most importantly guidance to people of all levels of knowledge so that they may be more proficient at whatever it is that there heart desires.

A little background on me , I have been a knife maker for almost 20 years now,   mostly stock removal but after completing horse shoeing school back in 2005  on occasion  I would hammer a few things out on my NC big face 78# farriers anvil but not many big projects.

After building a new ribbon burner forge to replace my old inefficient NA 2 burner ,  I found that I was really enjoying the  time  i was spending doing general blacksmith work . maybe being simply burnt out on making knives from stock removal has played  a significant roll in my sudden interest in being more proficient in the blacksmith area . Making  damascus/pattern welded steel , hammers and drifts etc. on my little anvil presents its challenges.

So now to the meat and potatoes of my post....

The sudden spike of interest of the general public wanting to do what they are watching on a certain Forging show every week The price of anvils are going for 10 times what they are worth I have decided to build a Anvil/swage block to aid in some of my future projects which include ornamental things like Hooks, Bottle openers , hammers , drifts, punches, hatchets , and of coarse knives.

I am a certified welder as well as pretty proficient on a mill and lathe.

The material I have on hand that i'm thinking about using for this project are as follows.

2 Fork lift tines  with solid 2" round stock on them.

6 weld on wear plates for track loader  (assuming AR plate )  4" wide X 1/2 thick X 20" long 

2 pieces of 1/4" thick AR400 plate aprox 18" X 20"

6 pieces of heat treated (56 RC ) S7 shear blades  that are 3/4 thick 8"  wide and I think 22" long

Also have plenty of mild steel available for frame work of fill in material , swage shapes etc.

What are your suggestions on arranging this material to best suit my needs?

I"m guessing that the S7 would be my best bet for anvil face but would like some  input from the group.

I have seen several pictures in the post that looked useful but dont have first hand experience with a anvil/swage combo?

Thanks, Clint

 

 

 

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Thanks JHCC 

I did read the READ THIS FIRST info Hope I didnt miss anything important that will get me lashes .

The Marco post you metion is actually one of the 7,289 post and pictures that I have looked at that inspired this new project.

Very good info in that one. Thanks for your reply.

Clint

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Welcome aboard... The moderators don't administrate lashes, although at times a mild hammering is in order.:) Sounds like you have a pretty good resource pile fo what you want to do. The main thing with an improvised anvil is to get as much steel vertically under the hammer. There is an Improvised Anvil Thread for a lot of good ideas. We even use on occasion even though we have 3 London Pattern anvils. 

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He just wanted to beat me to posting Marco's link.  Of course I have to admit to being the Thomas mentioned---I drug the first one out on my own! (Old industrial spoil pile alongside of a river bluff; from back in the good old days when bulldozing your industrial trash into the river was considered OK!)

I like it as forklift tines can be found pretty much anywhere in industrialized countries and they do wear out/get damaged.

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On 1/28/2020 at 2:36 PM, 5S forge (Clint) said:

2 Fork lift tines... 

I"m guessing that the S7 would be my best bet for anvil face but would like some  input from the group.

I would be inclined to make a fork lift tine anvil as previously mentioned. I wouldn't bother with trying to add an S7 face to it, although I do admit to being intrigued by an idea Frosty has mentioned a couple/few times about brazing an air hardening steel face to an ASO (i.e., something shaped like an anvil but not suitable for the purpose). I would use what S7 you have for tools or to face something that needed it. 

You asked about making a combination anvil/swage. I think that a forklift tine is excellent for getting mass between your hammer and the ground, but it cannot readily be reconfigured to use multiple sides/faces and still retain that advantage of mass under the hammer; therefore, I wouldn't try to make it a combo.

You can forge or grind swages into pieces of your forklift tines that you don't use for your anvil(s). If you make a hardy hole in your anvil (such as just outside the fork bend) or a portable hardy hole, you can weld hardy shanks to the swages. Alternatively, you can hold your swages in a post vice, fab a stand for them, or cut grooves into a stump to hold them. These last three options allow you to make swages with different shapes on different faces and turn your swage to present the shape that you want when you need it. 

If you are set on making a combination anvil/swage, look up Glen GS Tongs on YouTube. He uses a couple of interesting anvil/swages that may give you some ideas. If you have any large blocks of steel (mild or otherwise), this may be a reasonable path. 

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Thanks for your reply Chris. 

I think you are correct about keeping them separate , I have plenty of room in my shop so why not have both.

A friend of mine told me that I could come did through his heavy equipment scrap pile to see if I can find anything useful for making things in my shop, Here are the pictures he sent me.... (i'm probably gonna need the gooseneck)

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Fun times.. track rails, sprockets, rollers, tines, ripper-spike, idler fork, etc etc... there should be goodies a plenty to mess with if you have open access.

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