Wineman Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 Shoot, I thought I could milk the new guy status for at least a month or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 The members of IForgeIron are some are the best people in the world and conduct themselves as ladies and gentlemen. Basically the site rules of no fussing, no cussing, no personal attacks, and please stay away from religion and politics are in place to keep things running smoothly. Your wife can read over your shoulder and your daughter / grand daughter can sit on your knee and read the site. The members often provide a gentle reminder long before the mods or admins get involved. A gentle reminder from a mod or admin is not personal but simply taking care of the business of the site. Pack a lunch and a cold drink when you visit the site. We want you to succeed, so relax and enjoy learning about blacksmithing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wineman Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 10 hours ago, Glenn said: We want you to succeed, so relax and enjoy learning about blacksmithing. Hey Glenn, thanks for taking the time to offer some words of encouragement. As you can see from the way I removed most of your comment, I'm a fast learner. This is a very cool forum and I will be strolling through much of it just for the fun of learning something new. BTW, I use 2 n's in my name too. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Deleted most of what Glenn said? You DO learn fast. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wineman Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 I'd like to thank you all for your help in identifying my post leg blacksmith vice and share what I've learned for the next person doing this search. WT.&F.Co stands for the Warren Tool and Forge Company of Warren Ohio. On my vice the lower horizontal bar of the F is so faint that I couldn't see it at first and mistook it for an R so I thought it was stamped WT.&R.Co. No one recognized that mark until Irondragon Forge and Clay chimed in and said it might stand for the Warren Tool Co. from Ohio. That led to further research that caused me to use a brass wire brush on the leg and reveal another stamp that said Quickwerk. Further research led to this question raised by another member. "...What's the difference between Warren T&F and Warren Axe & Tool, if any? Answer: Two different companies, at two different cities named Warren, one in Ohio and the other in Pennsylvania. Warren Tool & Forge started production in 1912, according to this History of Northeastern Ohio, page 1112 "George F. Konold, son of Christ Konold, entered the shops of the Iron City Tool Works, at Pittsburgh, at the age of 15 years. He became a helper, then a hammersmith, and by practical experience acquired a knowledge of every branch of the forge industry. At the time of his father's death in 1888 he was 24 years old, and well equipped and qualified to become his father's successor as superintendent of the plant. That post he filled for 23 years. It was in 1911 that Mr. Konold became identified with the industrial affairs of the city of Warren. He and his brother, M. J. Konold, and J. D. Robertson, of Pittsburgh, organized in that year the Warren Tool & Forge Company. Ground was broken in December of that year and the plant was completed and equipped with machinery of Mr. Konold's special design. The first shipment of products was made in June, 1912. George F. Konold was the practical man of the concern. He was treasurer and general manager of the company. The president was Mr. Robertson and the vice president was M. J. Konold. Both resided at Pittsburgh..." This led to discovering another little gem (see attachment) that explains both the WT.&F.Co and Quickwerk stamps. So yesterday afternoon I posted my vice on eBay for $150 obo plus $50 for shipping and sold it yesterday evening for $170! Again, thanks for the help with identifying and selling my vice. This is another great forum that I'll enjoy browsing through a long time. And a special thanks to Glenn, for taking the time to call me personally and plant a spark for learning more about blacksmithing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Thanks for the additional info, it's very satisfying to us when a small hint leads another to do more research and that pays off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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