Glenn Posted March 26 IForgeIron is now carrying gas forge supplies, such as Inswool insulating blanket, Kast-o-lite 30, insulating bricks, etc. Watch this space as we list the products and prices. PM me for details. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHCC Posted March 31 Do you plan to offer IR reflective coatings (ITC, Metrikote, Plistix, etc)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glenn Posted March 31 Plistix and Fire brick are available Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pnut Posted April 2 Glenn I'm glad you are doing this. It will make it much easier for new members to get some of the materials that they seem to have trouble sourcing without having to buy more than needed. If I can make a suggestion you may want to give an estimate on how much five lbs of kastolite will cover. When I was looking into building a gasser that was something that I had a hard time figuring out until I was directed to a website of a member here. Great idea and good luck, Pnut (Mike) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glenn Posted April 2 We are working on that information and more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris The Curious Posted May 24 Yes, Glen, it would be most helpful to have an idea of coverage, i.e. "a 5# bag will cover X-number square inches to a 1/2" depth". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glenn Posted May 24 The Kast-o-lite 30 bulk density after 1500*F (815*C) is listed as 87 to 97 pounds per cubic foot. Lets call it 90 pounds per cubic foot. A cubic foot is 12 x 12 x 12 inches. Divide 90 by 12 and you get 7.5 pounds per square foot at one inch thick, or 3.75 pounds per square foot at 1/2 inch thick. One source says that when properly mixed it will make 18 cubic inches per pound of material. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somie666 Posted July 6 Where can I get cheap fire bricks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glenn Posted July 6 Gas Forge Refractories and Supplies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Irondragon Forge & Clay Posted July 7 21 hours ago, Somie666 said: Where can I get cheap fire bricks? That would also depend upon where in the world you are located, hence the suggestion to edit your profile to show your location. READ THIS FIRST Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andren Redd Posted July 30 I am just beginning to blacksmith. I have everything I need except for a tube attachment to connect my forge to the propane. Where can I get one, and what do the prices look like? Please reply if you can help me. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Sells Posted July 30 at the propane store down the street from me, their prices are nice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frosty Posted July 30 Ayup, either the propane supplier's show room or the HVAC supply up the road from me has everything a person needs to manage propane. Stop by I'll take you up and show you the shelf and bin. The refractory supplier is a 55 mile drive into the big city, you buy the gas, I'll drive. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andren Redd Posted July 30 Thanks, guys! Unfortunately, I do not live anywhere near you Frosty, but I think I can find an HVAC store near me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glenn Posted July 30 If you live in the US, order from the IForgeIron store. We deliver to your location, even Alaska. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frosty Posted July 31 Andren: Saying you live in the USA is a little TOO general, maybe narrow it down to a county or state. I was posing an example of how impossible it can be to get meaningful answers to questions without providing enough information first. Not that you're not welcome in my shop, you are. Oh, and Glenn makes the deliveries personally. He drives FAST and his car gets good mileage. I'm often tempted to order something next day delivery just to see the clips on the news and listen to the sirens closing in. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hdvoyager319 Posted October 1 Does the store sell a Manifold to connect two or more propane bottles together? A single 20# propane bottle will freeze up after an hour or two running time. A single bottle placed in the Slack Tub filled with warm water will greatly extend the running time before freeze up. Yet, the bottle will still;l freeze and have a layer of ice on the outside. Manifolding two or three bottles together will extend the run time. However, when the bottles get low on propane, they will freeze up;. I took a Damascus Knife Blade course at Tunnel Mill, Mn. They had two 100# bottles manifolded together. The propane forge had consumed over half the propane out of the bottles by the time the forge was shut down in the evening. The next day, the forge was fired up on one bottle which froze up after several hours. The second bottle was then used and it to froze up. Then back to the first bottle as it had thawed by then. This was a large propane forge that 4 items could be heated at the same time at welding heat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Irondragon Forge & Clay Posted October 1 I don't think the IFI store sells manifolds, however any RV store should have them as well as online. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yanni Rockitz Posted October 11 Good grief -- you guys have a STORE ?!?!? Wish I'd known when I first got going putting together what I needed for my gas forge -- I actually learned most of what ended up being valuable from Mike and Frosty, but somehow I missed the fact that it could all be ordered right here. Anyone have any experience with the longevity of Plistix vs. ITC 100? I got ITC, but I see a lot of people run Plistix. Also -- any consensus on the final layer over the ceramic fiber insulation? I've got Satanite, which I'm planning to apply two 1/4" layers of over rigidized and dried fiber blanket, drying each layer so I end up with 1/2" of Satanite, then final-coat that with the ITC 100. Anyone think there's a better / more long-lasting way to go? I was going to do hard fire brick for a floor over the first inch of ceramic fiber, then another inch of fiber blanket butted up to that -- coat the brick with this hi-temp fireplace mortar (2300 F rated) to give it some resistance to flux and coat the walls and ceiling with the two quarter-inch layers of Satanite, then ITC 100 over that for the final IR layer. Any better suggestions? Like kiln shelf for a bottom better than fire brick from Lowes, etc? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glenn Posted October 11 Top of the forum is a tab labeled IFI Store, Shirts, Refractory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pnut Posted October 12 (edited) Did you look? All the supplies you need to line a gas forge are available. There's a thread titled consolidated notes for first time forge builders with everything you need to know. Pnut Edited October 12 by pnut Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frosty Posted October 12 Yanni: We voted and decided to wait till you'd bought the expensive stuff before letting you know IFI has a store. Plistex or Matrikote is much more durable than ITC-100. No hard fire brick in the forge it's a major heat sink and poor insulation, (see limestone) so it requires more fuel to bring up to and maintain temperature. Kiln shelf makes a MUCH better floor. Satanite is a good product and 1/2" is plenty though some guys use less on walls and roof. I wouldn't use less than 1/2" for the floor. A final wash with plistex or matrikote is a final layer of armor that will keep it working much longer. If you're using a cylindrical shell level the bottom with ceramic blanket, feathering the edges to make up smoothly with the sides then plaster smooth with the hard refractory. Satanite in your case. Does that help? Frosty The Lucky. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pnut Posted October 13 Just so Mr. Rockitz doesn't get the wrong idea I was replying to a post directly above my last post that has been deleted. It coincidentally does seem to fit in the flow of the thread. Pnut Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwynlaredogranger Posted October 13 not sure where this goes but i just scored 30 5 gallon pails of new pumpable inswool at an auction for 300 bux! and its only a half hour from the shop! that should last a few years. most people dont understand what im even talking about...yeah refractories are an addiction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Crew Posted October 13 im not sure what what type of forge you have or want but --- how big can you build with 150 gallons? bigger than I can contemplate ever forging ! If shipping isn't stupid i might be interested in buying 1 pail from you (i have small forge plans) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
