Jonathan Smidt Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 On 11/30/2017 at 9:04 AM, DanielC said: It is interesting to note that i only became interested in smithing at all after i watched the first airing of Ric Furrer making a crucible steel viking sword on Nova. From there my journey started, and years of constant study, and experimentation and work has lead me here. 50 smelts in, over 60 orishigane runs, and now this. In 2 weeks or so time i have made 4 crucible steel ingots, with at least 20 hours of forging time involved altogether. Was that the Nova special on the Ulfberht??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 On 12/4/2017 at 3:59 PM, Jonathan Smidt said: Was that the Nova special on the Ulfberht??? That's the one. Ric Furrier is a member of IFI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Smidt Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Awesome! I just started learning how to forge (took a couple blacksmithing courses over the summer, and a few bladesmithing courses in the past few months), now just spending time out at my forge every weekend, and reading/watching everything I can during the week. I think I'm going to go back and rewatch that Nova special tonight, it's been a few years since I watched it, and I feel I'll have a better appreciation for it now! ....though I am a long long way away from attempting to make crucible steel, but watching the pictures of the process here is fascinating! (any other good documentaries/specials to watch?? I think I've punched through all the ones I could find on Netflix/Hulu/ and Amazon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielC Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 My most recent work ~1.7% C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HojPoj Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Looking good! I really appreciate the effort you've taken in documenting this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thematrixiam Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 awesome... Got any more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielC Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 Yea, I do. I recently purchased an refurbished an inverted metallurgical microscope. Finally got it running and decided to take a peek at the resulting blades. Spheroidization of the cementite is obvious :0 (Ferric etch. Not etched in 3% nital as is proper). Also 800x objective is being funny so not using it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anvil Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielC Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 Nital etch instead. Reveals more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTMichaud Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 That is some awesomely neat stuff right there. Crucible is on my "to do" list in the future. After I get the bloomery done. Which is only after I get a retort built... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielC Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 More crucible steel on the horizon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
671jungle Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Daniel, Hows this going? made anything out of them yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielC Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 I forged that puck out but it contained a void that stretched with the bar and didnt show up until I had a bar about a foot long. I remelted it with other material and Manganese addition. The puck has recieved REM treatment and is ready to be forged out. I'm working on a pile of sanmai at the moment though. The plan is to work the puck once I knock a group of sanmai out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGun Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 How much time is the steel spending in the furnace to get it to melt and what are you running for fuel to melt it? I notice the glass on the surface. Are you using it as a slag layer to prevent atmosphere from contacting the steel? I am still working on refractories that will withstand the temperatures repeatedly. How is your furnace holding up to multiple melts and what are you using as refractory? I have to say that the NOVA Ulfberht documentary was AWESOME and I have watched it at least 5 times at this point. It is what got me interested in melting steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omnislug Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Following! Thank you very much for posting all the progress with this! One day I'll definitely be giving it a shot as well. Got huge local deposits of magnetic black sand that is asking me to smelt it as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielC Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share Posted May 2, 2022 Hey guys. Been awhile. This is from my most recent work. Shaded in black and white to draw comparisons to Fegiels book on antique wootz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Thanks for the update Daniel. Looking good from here. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielC Posted May 4, 2022 Author Share Posted May 4, 2022 I don't remember the rules on quoting and all that, but thanks. It's a lamellar water pattern. Like the antiques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 The idea is to quote as little as necessary to make a point. Say you wish to ask a question or make a statement about a point in a post 2 years ago then quoting the sentence paragraph or whatever is good. It provides continuity in the conversation and helps everybody keep up. Some folk quote entire posts that are directly above the one they're submitting which is B A D. No cookie for them! Or are you talking about quoting from other sources, if it's copy righted, or contains advertising, from another web site, it's not allowed. Other web sites are a maybe. Some have issues with IFI and vis versa. I scanned back in this thread and see you had a number of projects going. I only have a basic knowledge about the kinds of metallurgy you're working for but it's not zero. What did you put in this puck? Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielC Posted May 4, 2022 Author Share Posted May 4, 2022 This is 1.6% C with traces of V and Cr. This is basically the end goal for crucible steel endeavors. You can search back when I first joined and got into this in 2012 that my main driving force into any of this was Ric Furrer and his Nova special on crucible steel. Now we circle back 10 years later and granted I've been successfully doing it for a few years now, it is in my 10th year of forge work that I've met some goals I made in the beginning, but may have even then exceeded my expectations. Many crystalline patterns or stretched grain boundary cementite patterns out there, but very few really good lamellar water patterns out there, and hitting that goal has been met. Now I can just have fun with it. I've got many ingots ready to work into magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzkill Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 I don't comment much on topics like this where I have little knowledge and no experience, but I am following with great interest and I suspect many others are as well. I guess I'm just saying don't let the lack of comments dissuade you from posting new material. What you have shown us here is amazing and interesting. I'd like to see anything related to this topic that you're willing to share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Note that all crucible steel is not Wootz; but all Wootz is crucible steel---even historically! A clean crucible steel was a giant step ahead for HC work even if it wasn't Wootz. Dr Feuerbach's Thesis "Crucible Steel in Central Asia" makes this point very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Including C in wootz I understand to a lay degree. What did you use to add the V and CR, alloys or relatively pure metals? Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Carbide formers to get the carbide arrays that provide the patterns. One of the reason that there was so much "guessing" on how Wootz was made was that some of the important elements in it were in such low amounts that they were ignored as part of the "trash" in early analyses....Also why it "disappeared" in places; when the mine(s) that had the needed elements in addition to the iron ore played out the patterns disappeared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 I recall the stories, I was wondering what Daniel used. I doubt he went to India and opened a new vein with a taste of vanadium in it. Of course I'm wrong pretty often. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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