Nick Safonov Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Hello, I live in Ukraine, and I bought an anvil but I can not identify it. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems to me that it is English. Maybe the Mouse ... I can not find the stigma only the numbers to the best of my knowledge this English measure of weight is possible. Its weight is 236 kg. Please help me figure it out ... Rub it gently with your hands then use flour and chalk. I'm very sorry for my english and the quality of photos ... I would like to know the approximate age of the anvil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the iron dwarf Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 the numbers look to me like 4 3 10 this is the English hundredweight system. 4 hundredweight 4x 112 pounds 448 pounds 3 quarters 3x 28 pounds 84 pounds 10 pounds 10 pounds total 542 pounds is about 245.8kg it may have lost some weight over the years or I may have missread the middle number your English is good, my Ukrainian is not even bad, I do not know a single word in your language I visited Kiev in 1992 for a week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Safonov Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 I think 4 37 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the iron dwarf Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 second number can only be 0,1,2,3, as it is quarters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Safonov Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Thank you very much for your answer! Tell me please, she can be a mouse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 As @Everything Mac notes in his Beginner's Guide to buying anvils, there were literally hundreds of anvil manufacturers in England, so while this has the general overall lines of a Mousehole, it was probably made by someone else who trained there. You'll probably never be able to figure out exactly who, unless you discover some other markings that you overlooked earlier. If it doesn't actually say Mousehole, it probably isn't a Mousehole. That said, the presence of the pritchell hole indicates that it was probably made after about 1835. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the iron dwarf Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 we may need better pictures and other people here are better at identification than me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Safonov Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Tomorrow I will make normal photos, Tell me is there any hope of finding her brand and is she really made in England? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Welcome aboard Nick, glad to have you. If you'll put your general location in the header you might be surprised how many Ukrainians are members, maybe within visiting distance. That is one HECK of an anvil, it's condition looks pretty good and it's heavy enough to have it's own permanent spot in the shop. Have you done a rebound test? Drop a ball bearing or lightly tap it with a light hammer and estimate how far it bounces back. The closer to the height you dropped it from the better the light smooth faced hammer is good for tapping a pattern over the whole fact. This lets you find spots that are softened or the face has delaminated from the body. I can't help you with the maker and that may be lost in the mists of time. Please put her to work, when it comes down to it age and maker don't really matter to a working tool. That is a SWEET find. Your English is better than some of the guys who were born here. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Safonov Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Еще раз большое спасибо! Я сделал тест на отскок. Мяч хорошо прыгает. Кольцо наковальни звонит, что позволяет мне понять, что в нем нет трещин и пучков. Лицо провисало на 5 мм, а рог нужно сваривать, но я буду работать над ним. The horn will be helped by carbide electrodes of cracks in the horn no ... I'm sorry again ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the iron dwarf Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 show some pictures of the damage to the horn before you weld it please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 34 minutes ago, Nick Safonov said: Еще раз большое спасибо! Я сделал тест на отскок. Мяч хорошо прыгает. Кольцо наковальни звонит, что позволяет мне понять, что в нем нет трещин и пучков. Лицо провисало на 5 мм, а рог нужно сваривать, но я буду работать над ним. The horn will be helped by carbide electrodes of cracks in the horn no ... I'm sorry again ... Oh PLEASE don't weld on it. The horn isn't damaged enough you you can't avoid the damage. Carbide rods are a very bad choice it's NOT intended to take impact and will chip out. If you MUST weld up that damage use a "build up" rod designed to build up damage under hard face rods. Build up rod is formulated to be impact and deformation resistant rather than hard. Carbide is abrasion resistant and is pretty brittle. Hitting it with a hammer will make it crack and break while damaging your hammer face. Honest, I even took a couple classes for hard facing tool. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Safonov Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 I did not buy an anvil for the sake of the brand. I need it for work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkie Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Nick, wonderful old anvil... cherish it! If you feel that you need a "pointy" horn, simply make a short bick to fit in your hardie hole. I made one for small work and it's fine. I concur with the others... absolutely NO welding on that old beauty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judson Yaggy Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 6 hours ago, the iron dwarf said: I visited Kiev in 1992 for a week Hey! That's when I was there! Sadly only for 3 days in May, but they were a glorious 3 days. Hope to go back some day. I can't add anything about the anvil that hasn't already been said, but one that size is a nice find. Welcome to IFI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Safonov Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 I found! It's hard to see but it's exactly the inscription "HOLE" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 In the third photo of your last post, I think I can make out " - - I T A G E", which would be the tail end of "ARMITAGE". That would be additional confirmation that this is a Mousehole anvil, and if you can puzzle out what initials come before "ARMITAGE", that can also help narrow the date range down further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Safonov Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 На лапах под рогом есть стигма, это может помочь! Таким образом, есть вероятность, что это настоящая мышь! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Just as a general note: having the weight marked in the hundred weight system is a good indication that it was English; American anvils were usually marked in pounds, swedish anvils in pounds (for the American market) or KG, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Safonov Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Прости. Я не знаю, как переворачивать фотографии ... This is all that I was able to find on the anvil until as much as a torus with a brush .... On the vengeance where the stigma can be seen that many worked apparently so the stigma almost disappeared ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Safonov Posted August 25, 2017 Author Share Posted August 25, 2017 the mouse is ready for forging ... I hope to forge a pair of axes on the weekend ... Friends help please determine her age by the numbers I heard that this is possible. I hope someone will have a picture of such an anvil I would like to see not damaged by the brand of the mouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Safonov Posted August 25, 2017 Author Share Posted August 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Nick Safonov said: The mouse is ready to work. I hope to make a pair of axes on the weekend ... Friends help please determine her age by the numbers I heard that this is possible. I hope someone will have a picture of such an anvil I would like to see not damaged by the brand of the mouse. Once again, forgive my English ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Safonov Posted August 25, 2017 Author Share Posted August 25, 2017 2 часа назад Ник Сафонов сказал: 2 hours ago, Nick Safonov said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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