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Roadkyll

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Another newbie to this site and to blacksmithing and bladesmithing I'm from Albury New South Wales Australia

Have been trolling over tons of good info on here and in the planning stages for a forge and burner. I really like the NARB but trying to find the equialent materail in Australia is xxxx hard.Even more living in a rural region nearly everything has a shipping cost which nearly cost more than the product . But nearly found all the products that should work hopefully hahaha.

 

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Welcome aboard, I'm sure the other smiths in OZ can help you sorce materials, I'm sure you have the aproriate industry's that use refractory materials

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Welcome aboard!  Good luck on the NARB.  I'm fantasizing about it myself.  Deep down I just want to pay Frosty to make one and ship it to me.....I'll pay!

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Thanks Guys for the warm welcome.

I have source all the refractory seeing what close to what Frosty and Wayne used as I can get it here in Australia. Wil be doing a lot of testing to find the right burn nozzles and if the refractory will hold up even though found a glazing that should help as well a lot of that work  has been done for me thanks to Frosty.

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I imagine mig welders and gas pipe fittings exaist in OZ as well, lol. Converting from imperial to metric is the trick. But compatibility is an issue and OZ was using imperial standerds not so long ago. You got this, lol.  

 

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Yeah mate conversion simple when I was younger we used imperial system lol and I have and can mig tig arc no pipe nipple aren't that easy to get making that part lol:P

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Welcome Roadkyll. Good to have another Australian on board. Mate, I know what you're saying about  freight costs in rural areas. And of course the further north you go the worse it gets.

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Welcome aboard Roadkyll, glad to have you. The cost of shipping kills us too, just about doubles the price. Nothing compared to what you suffer but it still stinks.

I haven't actually written up a set of plans for a naturally aspirated multiple outlet burner yet. I'm still figuring out how to make the things, what I did works but there has to be a better way. 

We'll need to work out our terms so we know what the other guy is saying but that's easy enough. For instance when you say glaze I hit a stopping point, here a glaze is something that melts at a relatively low temperature and adheres to the material being glazed. Glaze on pottery is the best known but enamel on the bath tub, sink, etc. or on jewelry is a glaze. I seriously doubt it would do anything but deteriorate the refractory liner in a forge.

Different terminologies to work out. Make sense?

You do have plumbing suppliers don't you? Every one I've ever been in will cut and thread pipe to your specifications for a couple dollars. Big box stores, like Wall Mart, Sears, etc. sell very limited selection of real hardware supplies and you aren't going to find what you need there. Some of the fitting I like aren't common. 

I'll be more than happy to work with you putting one together. The process is pretty straight forward but I've come up with a couple tricks that make it easier.

Frosty The Lucky.

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22 hours ago, ausfire said:

Mate, I know what you're saying about  freight costs in rural areas. And of course the further north you go the worse it gets.

Yeah definitely I know that before coming back down live in Cairns for 15 years it's like triple the freight and cheers for the welcome.

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18 hours ago, Frosty said:

The cost of shipping kills us too, just about doubles the price. Nothing compared to what ut our tres, like Wall Mart, Sears, etc. sell very limited selection of real hardware supplies and you aren't going to find what you need there. Some of the fitting I like aren't common.

Thanks Frosty for the warm welcome.

A couple of points 1 is you that used Zircopax in the refractory for the ribbon burner to strengthen it in Australia that comes under a glaze classification the Kast-O-Lite can't find it .By reading through Material Safety Data Sheets and found a similar one

The plumbing supplies here don't really carry black pipe most are made from galvanized and it's not that common either, plastic,copper and brass are but yesterday did find a 1 and 1/2 nipple in gal so going to try and use vinegar to remove unkown if it works.

Managed to source nearly everything now from a sprinkler fitters yesterday believe or not as we get some of our other parts from them for the propane fire trainers which we make for ourselves.

Our local store like Walmart or Sears is Bunnings and they have less Wall mart when I was in the States a few years going into them was like letting a kid into a candy store haha we have nothing like that here.

Sorry writing isn't one of my strong points and explaining probably doesn't come through clearly enough but I do research everything throughly before moving forward so hopefully that explains it a little better.

 

To the Moderator sorry I didn't consider that word as a profanity word

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Darn, you're right zircopax is listed as a glaze additive, I'd forgotten, my mistake.

Kastolite is preferred by recent consensus but hardly the only appropriate product. Availability outside the USA isn't something I know about. Well, sort of there are still companies in the lower 48 states that think Alaska is a different country, the others think we're outside the "continental" US. Doesn't make much difference they want to double shipping. 

No worries, you're plenty understandable we'll just have to ask each other for clarification now and then. Easy peasy. 

We'll work everything out, no sweat. Give me a shout if you have questions.

Frosty The Lucky.

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Don't worry mate all good like I said  I research everything so I get it right in my mind otherwise it just annoys me haha

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Good to know, it might be fun to plant a couple annoying seeds for the fun of it. :P

Like puns, know any good jokes? Oh wait, we speak different versions of English, puns would be problematic. Forget the puns.

Frosty The Lucky.

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You can  plant what want doesn't mean the seed going to germinate coz sometimes nothing grows in there :o

And thank you for the offer for advice and help mate hopefully I don't ask too many dumb questions hahaha

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Here sprinklers and natural gas are generally black pipe, but some pex pipe is being used. 

Fire fighter, are you? Well you don't protect me, but I have folks I love in OZ, thanks for your service.

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Charles these's days I am a workplace trainer we teach fire fighting for Industry here for Emergency Response Teams,Wardens and Fire extingushers, First Aid all levels for Australia.

I started life on the family farm then through my stepfather taught us how to weld and general fabrication left the did my apprenticeship as Jeweller  there's probably the first introduction to casting. The forge was simple but good enough the melt 15 lbs of gold and silver.spent about 10 years doing that.

Moved Cairns became a dive instructor did that for15 years been scuba diving for 40 year now.

Doing my Dilpoma in paramedic science now another 2 years will be quailifed.

I love working with metal not so good with wood hahaha.

I have loads of firends in the States as well. Some are through diving and who I spent a lot time there when I was lot lot younger

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My "Brother" Marc LaChance and his wife  live outside of Perth in Ferndale. One of these days I have to make the trip. But with the costs of flights it might be cheaper to ship myself in a 20' container...

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So very true Mate Perth is beautiful city

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1 hour ago, Roadkyll said:

You can  plant what want doesn't mean the seed going to germinate coz sometimes nothing grows in there :o

And thank you for the offer for advice and help mate hopefully I don't ask too many dumb questions hahaha

A challenge! I know stuff that'll grow anywhere. :ph34r:

Ooooh, ANOTHER challenge! I get to look for dumbness in the questions a guy who researches things before he asks eh?  So what do you count as too many? 

Thanks for what you do. I owe my life to the local EMS they are quick and good, I was a serious mess, flat lined a couple times on the helicopter ride to the hospital. I was cutting wood and the tree got me.

Frosty The Lucky.

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I'd have to figure out how to stay a year and travel from end to end to see everyone I would like to set down and share cuppa or a beer with

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Yeah Frosty I do research everything and I try to get it close to perfect as I can :wacko:

Glad to hear that your well and made it through one of the lucky ones. Done 8 resuscitation got 4 back, lost 4.

The EMS here as everywhere else around the world are under paid and over worked for what they have to do.I have to so many hours out in placement with them and what they are sometimes confronted with you think what is going on with people.

Charles if you make it over this way you would have drop in for a beer.

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Interesting to note you spent 15 years in Cairns. You would no doubt be well acquainted with the Tableland where I live. Did you ever visit Herberton??

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Yeah sure did if I remember right at 2 hrs from Cairns. Brought a small property near Ravenshoe.  I lived at Edge hill miss the weather and my friends but I have young family so we moved back down south to be closer to my family them a daughter who turn 2 year old next month and 3 year old son 

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Wow! That's really getting local. My place is at Wondecla - a small place between Herberton and Ravenshoe. I know the Ravenshoe - Tumoulin - Evelyn - Garnet area well.

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Yeah Wow most people don't even where they are some of the prettiest countryside  in this country in my opinion I worked with Mian Roads for a little while out that way and fell in love with it. My name is Glenn

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