Daswulf Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I haven't noticed any issues with rebound with the rubber mat. There might be an ever so slight loss but I can forge on the ones with and the one without with nothing noticable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anvil Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 19 hours ago, jlpservicesinc said: Do you tighten the rods/nuts once the anvil is placed into the recess? Nope, no need. I just chisel it to a close fit. I apply a hot oil finish to my iron on the anvil enough and the oil probably helps. But most likely what matters the most is the scale will quickly will fill any voids. But the real trick is a close fit. Also, when setting your anvil into the sand, all you need to do is wiggle and/ or rock your anvil till its level. By the time you are level, the sand will have your anvil wedged tight. And years later, it's still level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anvil Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, MikeTausig said: I don’t want any gack on the anvil Read my post just above yours. Rout it out another inch deep and add an inch of fine sand. Level it in the sand and you are done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTausig Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I saw that shortly after I posted. I like that solution a lot better. I’ll try it both ways and see if there is a noticeable difference in rebound. Thanks for the heads up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 hours ago, MikeTausig said: I don’t want any gack on the anvil. I put a layer of gack/caulk between my anvil and its stand a couple of years ago, and I love it. I suppose it might be an issue someday if I have to separate the two, but in the meantime it’s solid as a rock — and that’s under the not-insubstantial whacking of the treadle hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTausig Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) That’s why I ask. Using caulk is much different than using a straight adhesive. Do you smear it on the entire under-surface, or just a bead? I would think it would need the entire under-surface in order to prevent gapping, which would render the technique moot to me. Cheers. Edited March 21, 2019 by Mod30 excessive quoting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 A thick bead around the perimeter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTausig Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Interesting. I might need to consider this, especially since caulk can be removed with relative ease. Thanks man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 If you do, try it and let us know how it goes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Hammer Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 You won't be sorry for using the caulk. I used 100% silicone caulking and it worked great. My Trenton went from ringing loudly to a deadened ring at best. I don't plan on ever seperating the anvil from the stump, but if I have to I'm not at all worried about removing the silicone. It's not going to be like a head gasket job, I'd just scrape off and remove what I can and put more on to stick it there again. Let us know how it turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTausig Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I’m going to try it both ways. I’ll start by using it without calk. If I feel there is a need, then yes...I’ll calk it. Maybe I’ll shoot a couple 30 sec videos of the comparison, if I go that route. Anybody know if IFI can handle short vid clips, or is it a bad idea in general, since not everybody has high speed interwebs? Thanks for all the ideas and responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelonian Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Just because I had some laying around, I decided to try using a roofing shingle under my anvil to see if it would help at all with the noise. It worked surprisingly well, and I've been using it for about a month with it. I've never used silicone under an anvil, so I can't compare the two, but the shingle does work pretty well in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Cedar shingle or asbestos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 How about slate or fiberglass. I tried some roofing tar paper under the Hay Budden and it did reduce the ring but not nearly as much as the latex calk that I ended up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 I've seen tar paper under a number of old anvils when I removed them from their prior stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelonian Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Well I'm clearly not an expert on roofing shingles, so I don't know for sure. I'm fairly sure they're some type of asphalt shingles, and if I tear a corner off one they seem to have some sort of fibrous material inside, which I hope to be fiberglass and not asbestos. If a photo of the packaging would be helpful I can take some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 If they are standard modern house shingles they will be fiberglass. (My previous house had slate shingles and one I lived in in the early 1980's had 7 layers of shingles with the lowest layer being wooden ones...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 I've found a bunch of leather under 4 different anvils from different areas of the Northeast.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Slate would not be good under an anvil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojo Pedro Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 I used 100% silicone and was amazed at the difference it made in the sound. The top of my stand was uneven so I pounded a couple of tico nails horizontally so it wouldnt rock when I set it on the silicone and squish it out. Worked a champ see my before and after vids in my kanca anvil post. Added bonus - anvil is one with the stand and rock solid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaughnT Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 On 3/23/2019 at 3:32 PM, MikeTausig said: I’m going to try it both ways... A wrought iron anvil will ring like a bell and annoy you no end. Add silicone, liquid nails or similar, and you silence that ringing to a degree that's really amazing. It's a night and day difference. I used a just about a whole tube on my Wilkinson anvil and it worked like a treat. I wonder if there's a minimum that I could have used, but better too much than not enough! The clean up to get rid of all the stuff that squished out was a pain, but my Wilkinson became almost as quiet as my Fisher. That's a real boon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les L Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 I finally had a chance to work on my anvil stand yesterday.12 inch blind flange and 2 inch schedule 40 pipe. The anvil is very quiet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Nice work. did you put caps on the bottom of the feet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les L Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Not yet, I want to use it for a while first in case I need to adjust the height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 sounds good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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