redstone71 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Ill be honest guys, I am not sure if I should have clicked into the HB review thread or started a new one. So I started a new because I am not sure I have a HB anvil, and fear I may have been played. I am not worried about the money but would like to know if it is what I hope it is I do apologize that my first post is to pester you with a question. Every picture I find of a HB I can identify at least some part of the logo stamp or some other number, but on mine, nothing. No logo, no serial #, nothin. I am beginning to fear it is not a HB and I bought something else, from one read on 'identifying your anvil' the author made a statement that sometimes anvils were 'unfinished' and sold as is for cheap. So anyway, here is what I have: a 300lb. "Hay Budden" but I am greatly concerned by the texture on the side and lack of any markings that i can find. The bottom (I forgot to take a picture) is flat with a square hole in the center. I can see the top plate seem, and maybe another between the top half and the bottom half at the waste. <iframe src="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fZduigpqipXbZo5WgWmQOloeTum-YDqXWA/preview" width="640" height="480"></iframe> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalcain2 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 welcome aboard. to be of real help we will need some more pics from all different angles, and closeups of the sides. if we have enough to go on it would be rough if someone here couldn't put a name to it. unfortunately, our HB guru is out of town for 2 months and has no internet were he is. from that 1 pic, i don't see anything that could not be HB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 It's definitely a good brand anvil and of American make (due to the attenuated shape common to American anvils in the "latter" years.) How many handling holes does it have and where are they located? What does the underside of the heel look like---smooth or undulating? Any stampings on the front foot? My guessing pool is currently: Trenton, Arm and Hammer or HB All top makes! Now to narrow it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstone71 Posted June 26, 2017 Author Share Posted June 26, 2017 I apologize, I could not figure out how to edit the original post. I thank you guys for your time. Here are a few pictures I took this evening: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McPherson Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 99.9% sure that you have a Hay-Budden, due to the "picture frame" on the base. Every one that I have ever been able to examine has that detail: thin raised rim around a recessed base. Makes it sit flat without rocking on most stumps or mounting stands. Oh, after about an hour only an administrator can alter a post, the edit feature times out to prevent meddling with content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalcain2 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I agree with John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turley Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Quote Many Hay-Buddens had a single number stamped into the waist next to the handling hole, under the horn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstone71 Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 I guess I was concerned due to the rough texture and the lack of markings. I didn't want to say it was a Hay-Budden if it was not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Ditto, and it's spent a lot of time in a pretty corrosive environment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 My take is it looks more like a Trenton. Is that the remnants of the diamond visible on the side? Side profile and horn do not look like a HB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Frog Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 That is not a Trenton base style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 As I recall the Trenton Hourglass basses tend to have much heavier walls and a deeper indentation; is this not so Black Frog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Geist Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 5 hours ago, njanvilman said: My take is it looks more like a Trenton. Is that the remnants of the diamond visible on the side? Side profile and horn do not look like a HB. From this vantage point I'm inclined to agree with Josh. George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Frog Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 It does have a Trenton-ish profile, but that base style is nothing like any I've ever seen from Trenton. Earlier A&H did have rather flat bottom cast bases, but not with any sort of rim border. The handling hole in the back foot (and none in the front) is a distinct clue pointing to it being a HB. Don't believe any other American company did that besides HB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aessinus Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 At least in the 2nd photo it has scale under it, so that the corrosion should lay off a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstone71 Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 I did take a wire wheel to it but I have not ground on it or try to clean it up. It rings nice and has far more bounce than the rail road steel I first struck. After just a few projects, and still trying to master tapers and leaves, i have fallen in love with it. Man what I wouldn't give to know where this thing has been and how it came to be. By the end of the summer it will have its own place and I look forward to many many projects together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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