jlpservicesinc Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 16 hours ago, Will W. said: Attempt #2! I need to work on my scarfs and consistency, among other things. I plan on making this a longer chain, so it shall be interesting seeing the quality (hopefully) progress from link to link. JHCC The link (no pun intended) didn't work for me for some reason. No clue why. Those are good looking chains, both Michael and arkie. Nice work guys. Move your forge welds to the ends of the links vs the middle.. Even if welded with the utmost care the welded area will fail.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar.esq Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 JLP is right. The sections in line with the load have half the load trying to pull them apart (tension). In contrast, the rounded sections at the end of the link have a shear load compressing the inside of the bend and a tension load spreading the outside of the bend. In cross section, the material in the center part of the bend has no load at all. I seem to recall watching a "How it's made" on mass-produced chain. They electrically welded the links on the side before heat treating the chain. It seemed as though they were looking for stress relief as opposed to a hardening/tempering operation. With the welds on the sides, it seems like they're counting on the tensile strength of the welds to define the break limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will W. Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 Had not thought about that. Thanks for the tip guys. I'll give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeeko Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 A crew of us from Chico made a bunch of chain at the Spring Conference in Ferndale last year, too. Came home and made another 20 links at the next club meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkie Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I think making chains is kinda like eating potato chips.....you can't just make one link....gotta keep making links 'til you poop out!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 3/8" 1018 HR X 7.5" long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkie Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Nice chain, jlp. Very smooth welds. I need to practice chain welds a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ling Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 first picture is of my first chain that I did about 2 years ago early on out of some 1/2" round. Not great at all. Second picture is of some chain that i did probably about 1 year ago out of some 3/8 round. A little better. I should make some now and compare it, I think it would be interesting. I had a though. It would be neat if i had started a chain when I first began, and added a link to it about every few months and see how improved. "the chain of progress" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 1 hour ago, littleblacksmith said: first picture is of my first chain that I did about 2 years ago early on out of some 1/2" round. Not great at all. Second picture is of some chain that i did probably about 1 year ago out of some 3/8 round. A little better. I should make some now and compare it, I think it would be interesting. I had a though. It would be neat if i had started a chain when I first began, and added a link to it about every few months and see how improved. "the chain of progress" Your scarfs are to long and the welded part of the link should be thicker in width.. But you certainly have the idea down.. 23 hours ago, arkie said: Nice chain, jlp. Very smooth welds. I need to practice chain welds a lot more. Thanks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Sorry it should have read.. Try to make the scarfs shorter.. Not sure if this is appropriate or not (let me know) here is the latest video and funny.. it's on chain making.. The intro shows 2 links.. These are 1/2".. I do find smaller sizes are harder to keep material in the weld joint.. Once you get up to 1/2" the weld usually has more than ample material to keep it full width pretty easily.. https://youtu.be/uS0CqaXwNNc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ling Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Thank you! The video was helpful. I had made the latest chain a while back, about a year ago, and so not much of my work that i did back then i was pleased with, but was a learning experience. I will have to try and remember to try some chain and see if i have improved. Littleblacksmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Cochran Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 On 3/24/2017 at 7:51 PM, jlpservicesinc said: Sorry it should have read.. Try to make the scarfs shorter.. Not sure if this is appropriate or not (let me know) here is the latest video and funny.. it's on chain making.. The intro shows 2 links.. These are 1/2".. I do find smaller sizes are harder to keep material in the weld joint.. Once you get up to 1/2" the weld usually has more than ample material to keep it full width pretty easily.. https://youtu.be/uS0CqaXwNNc I wish more videos posted were done like yours. I really appreciated the picture in picture you did which allows me to see what's going on almost as if I was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 37 minutes ago, Michael Cochran said: I wish more videos posted were done like yours. I really appreciated the picture in picture you did which allows me to see what's going on almost as if I was there. Thanks.. They are extremely hard to do.. I love the pic in pic also.. I also do it in 3D.. Major time suckers.. took 1.5hrs to make all the chain while filming, took 15hrs to edit it as there are 2 films to edit and combine.. + titles.. Probably why you don,t see more of them.. Again if this is the wrong place for this please move it as I don't want to detract from someone else's thread.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkie Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Great video! Really enjoyed it and learned a lot about forge welding chain links from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Michael Cochran said: I wish more videos posted were done like yours. I really appreciated the picture in picture you did which allows me to see what's going on almost as if I was there. The nail polish is a nice touch, too. There isn't nearly enough nail polish in blacksmithing videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Cochran Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 25 minutes ago, JHCC said: The nail polish is a nice touch, too. There isn't nearly enough nail polish in blacksmithing videos. I got a kick out of that myself but wasn't gonna mention it. Her arms are bigger than mine so she could probably hurt me if she wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 11 hours ago, JHCC said: The nail polish is a nice touch, too. There isn't nearly enough nail polish in blacksmithing videos. Its a nice spring time color.. Very festive.. And I totally agree be nice to get a few more with polish on.. Sadly between my regular farrier work and the blacksmithing stuff it just doesn't last.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 minute ago, jlpservicesinc said: Its a nice spring time color.. Very festive.. And I totally agree be nice to get a few more with polish on.. Sadly between my regular farrier work and the blacksmithing stuff it just doesn't last.. Do each nail in a different color: dark cherry, light cherry, orange, yellow, and white on one hand, and light straw, straw, brown, purple, and blue on the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, JHCC said: Do each nail in a different color: dark cherry, light cherry, orange, yellow, and white on one hand, and light straw, straw, brown, purple, and blue on the other. Thats a great idea.. Especially at a show.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 On 3/29/2017 at 10:04 AM, jlpservicesinc said: Thats a great idea.. Especially at a show.. Pictures, or it won't have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 14 minutes ago, JHCC said: Pictures, or it won't have happened. I'll get them.. next NEB show... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will W. Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 Awesome video jlp. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 My Pleasure.. More on the way.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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