yves Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I really hate the noise the handle makes when I let it go. I also dislike the pinching of my fingers and other meat parts around my hand. And its difficult to pull the handle up with the round ends. I further dislike the smell of elastic bands cut off and fallen from the vise's handle when hot iron finds them. So I went overboard, remembered the days when I sailed, and tied a turk's head knot. I do not know how long it will last but in the meantime, it works and if I may say so, it's nice to look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Yup, that's a fine looking solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Yves, Brilliant idea. Well done. A Turk's head knot made from non-plastic twine could be soaked in a fire retardant-water solution to make it less likely to burn or char. Borax comes to mind. But there may be other substances that work better, and are just as cheap. SLAG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommytaptap Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Great knots and greater idea. I use two tiny silicon washers on each end. Hard for a hotshot to get in anywhere and heat resistant anyway to a degree(don't know exactly how many though!) The bar makes a comforting dull thud rather than an ear splitting clang -isn't it funny though how we can happily clang away on the anvil but hate the vise when it whispers back at us? Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Hmm May have to soak some rawhide and wrap it multiple times: fairly resistant to hot metal; though the smell alerts you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yves Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 Glad you people like it. Slag : I did not feel the necessity to make it fire proof. I still do not. The elastic bands burn on the floor when they cut off. And they do that much too quickly. Never had them burn on the job. Tommytaptap : the sound of the handle hitting the vise is a noise. The sound of the anvil is a song … ThomasPowers : the other end of the handle will get a knot made from a piece of rawhide (have it in front of me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommytaptap Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Yves-in my first year at technical college in the metalwork shop, which at age 11 and never having seen one before was somewhat mind blowing; I had the ignorant temerity to allow an engineering vise bar drop unassisted onto the vise and was immediately and violently rapped on my knuckle with a wooden ruler by the professor tutoring us, who then snorted at me, "Boy, do that once more and you will be barred-literally." It was some years later when I realised what he meant but, he meant it! Its only recently my grip has relaxed enough to allow it to fall with a clang but for my ears, the washers do it for me-and for anvil work, the earplugs do the same job. When I want to sing, I am glad I use earplugs-I can sing in tune. But yes, within limits, the anvil does play a song-not as good as my bluegrass tho' Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Sometimes I'm closing a vise with my knee, both hands involved in holding pieces in place. In such a case I don't let the handle down slowly and quietly.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldironkilz Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 yves, I too like your solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anachronist58 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, yves said: I really hate the noise the handle makes when I let it go. I also dislike the pinching of my fingers and other meat parts around my hand. Meat Parts! Yikes! I hate looking at my pulleys and cables. That clang is the sound of a meat chopper and goes right up my spine. Excellent presentation Yves, and Thomas, I know that move! Robert Taylor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turley Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I like the knots. However, I have taught the following about pinching and good workmanship. One can develop the habit of, when finishing tightening and the handle-hand is above horizontal, do throw it downhill, clang or no clang. This prevents juddering while you're working and avoids pinch. If the handle-hand finishes tightening below horizontal, you're home free; leave it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 And here I was asking myself, WWFTD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 WWFTD = ? SLAG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 On 1/11/2017 at 7:37 PM, SLAG said: WWFTD = ? SLAG. What Would Frank Turley Do. Your turn Dan now. What might these better, less expensive than borax fire retardents be? Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Jer, Thank you for the definition. It is appreciated. SLAG. a. k. a. Dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Dirt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 22 minutes ago, Frosty said: What might these better, less expensive than borax fire retardents be? And can they be used as flux? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc1 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 To me that little clank is reassuring. Nothing to worry about, I'm at work ... so to speak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gote Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I do not find the clank objectionable but my main vises sit on a wooden 1" bench top that does not act as a lodspeaker. I assume it might be noisier if attached to a steel plate of sorts. I might steal the idea of using a turk's head anyway - just for looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc1 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 A thick "O" ring would do the job with less effort ... or a plumbers seal that fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51 Papy Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 While all of these are great ideas...it's kind of like the wooden screen door, the one you told the kids for years to stop banging. I know I'm strange but I love to hear both the older I get. That big old Parker's handle drops with authority and grace. Papy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Many people copy Parker's idea of drilling and tapping the spindle so you can put a brass/bronze plug that will make contact with the handle. You put a small spring behind the plug and a screw behind that. You can adjust the tension on the handle with the screw as well as compensate for wear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arftist Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 On 1/11/2017 at 8:48 PM, Frosty said: What Would Frank Turley Do. Your turn Dan now. What might these better, less expensive than borax fire retardents be? Frosty The Lucky. Waterglass solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwayslearning Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Good ideas all! And Frosty, where do you get waterglass these days? (Just wanted to hear other options other than feebay, or glamazon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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