NickOHH Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Jws gave me a peice of cable when me and Marcy went to visit. The cable got a bit drawn out while I was welding it so I ended up welding the whole thing and forging a tang. Heated a bit over non magnetic and quenched in brine then tempered at 340. Ground on a disk sander up to 220 then etched in ferric chloride for 30 mins. Handle is zebrawood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenylittlemetalguy Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Good effort. I really like welded wire rope. You may want to try a lot more twisting at welding temps. It really helps close the gaps and solidify the welds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickOHH Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 Yea it did compress a good bit welding still now I know for next time, and there will be a next very soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Hey nice first for welded cable. Neat shape to it. I like it. Only thing on the shape that would be more pleasing to my untrained non knife making eye would be for the blade to follow to the handle more and stop there on the edge side instead of it tapering to the handle. But I can't critique it cause I haven't tried yet. good start in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenylittlemetalguy Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Glad to hear there is more in your plans. What size wire rope are you starting with? it squishes down so much I like to use larger than 1-1/4". New or recycled? I like to use new with the grease still in it, although some others clean it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickOHH Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 Yea the rope squishes slot it was 1 inch, recycled. I'm gonna look for some bigger rope but that would work again now that I'm aware of how much size I will lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickOHH Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 Hey nice first for welded cable. Neat shape to it. I like it. Only thing on the shape that would be more pleasing to my untrained non knife making eye would be for the blade to follow to the handle more and stop there on the edge side instead of it tapering to the handle. But I can't critique it cause I haven't tried yet. good start in it. well get on it!! I have made several since my first attempt at a knife about a month ago. It's addictive, now I just need to find about 100' of cable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 well get on it!! I have made several since my first attempt at a knife about a month ago. It's addictive, now I just need to find about 100' of cablehaha, nice and I bet it is. I'm still working on some tools. guess it wouldn't hurt to cut a piece of leaf spring and give it a shot. I'll have to re read on proper quench and heat treating. I glance at the subject here and there and numbers get jumbled in my brain so it would be best if I study up on that subject and actually apply it. Ive made many KSO's. Just never anything proper before. Good luck getting some cable. Can't wait to see the next ones you make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickOHH Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 haha, nice and I bet it is. I'm still working on some tools. guess it wouldn't hurt to cut a piece of leaf spring and give it a shot. I'll have to re read on proper quench and heat treating. I glance at the subject here and there and numbers get jumbled in my brain so it would be best if I study up on that subject and actually apply it. Ive made many KSO's. Just never anything proper before. Good luck getting some cable. Can't wait to see the next ones you make. I just heated this til the blade wasn't magnetic let it get a bit hotter not much though and gave it a minute the quenched in room temp brine. The coil spring ones I've been quenching I'm warm oil. Either temper em in the oven(not ideal) or on the forge while the fire is dying out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.w.s. Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Yea the rope squishes slot it was 1 inch, recycled. I'm gonna look for some bigger rope but that would work again now that I'm aware of how much size I will lose.Well, actually that rope was brand new from MacWhyte, you just didn't pay attention to the spool I have of it near my coal bin. I don't like repurposed cable just like I don't like repurposed springs - never know what the previous life had it doing. So, did you first forge weld your ends, then tighten the twist? While I get some reduction in size after welding I get a quite solid non-"squishy" steel.J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickOHH Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Well, actually that rope was brand new from MacWhyte, you just didn't pay attention to the spool I have of it near my coal bin. I don't like repurposed cable just like I don't like repurposed springs - never know what the previous life had it doing. So, did you first forge weld your ends, then tighten the twist? While I get some reduction in size after welding I get a quite solid non-"squishy" steel.JI stand corrected I had a feeling I may have been wrong after I said recycled. I did forge weld the ends and twist, may have not twisted it enough not wanting to break strands or is loosening up while I worked it possible. Probably just didn't get it tight enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.w.s. Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I stand corrected I had a feeling I may have been wrong after I said recycled. I did forge weld the ends and twist, may have not twisted it enough not wanting to break strands or is loosening up while I worked it possible. Probably just didn't get it tight enough. There's a happy medium when twisting, but if it's loosening up then your weld on the billet wasn't good. In class I always point out the audible difference once that weld sets, I don't really know how to describe it here though.. but at welding temp when you start it should be sort of a "thunk - thunk -tonk." Perhaps I should have demonstrated while you guys were here - only takes me 25 minutes from start to blade, but I've kinda got a system down. In my cable class I typically expect about an hour and a half to be eaten up by forging. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickOHH Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 There's a happy medium when twisting, but if it's loosening up then your weld on the billet wasn't good. In class I always point out the audible difference once that weld sets, I don't really know how to describe it here though.. but at welding temp when you start it should be sort of a "thunk - thunk -tonk." Perhaps I should have demonstrated while you guys were here - only takes me 25 minutes from start to blade, but I've kinda got a system down. In my cable class I typically expect about an hour and a half to be eaten up by forging. JI suppose untwisting is not what happened because the tongs would had to be turning with other side stationary. Good chance I just didn't get it tight enough, and a good chance I just accidentally drew it out to much. While your welding the blade do you slowly turn it or just work. 2 sides and make it flat from the start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.w.s. Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I suppose untwisting is not what happened because the tongs would had to be turning with other side stationary. Good chance I just didn't get it tight enough, and a good chance I just accidentally drew it out to much. While your welding the blade do you slowly turn it or just work. 2 sides and make it flat from the start?the only time i turn it i when welding the ends. I twist the rest tight and weld the blade solid followed by the tang if applicable.J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickOHH Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 the only time i turn it i when welding the ends. I twist the rest tight and weld the blade solid followed by the tang if applicable.Jgotcha , working 4 sides is what screwed me up, and I suppose how you keep the cable intact on the top of the blade. I will be on the hunt for cable, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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