fergy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) We'll searching for a new anvil is australia is slow and boring work so today I pulled out a piece of steel that was left over from a job three years ago my plan is to use this as the base of my anvil maybe just trim it a bit and weld a lop plate on or cat two ASO,s and weld them together and then weld top plate ontop plate will be 50or60mm bis alloy 80this will be cut to resemble a face and German style pointy hornI will then turn a horn from 4140 or something and weld it to the other end I plan on a few prickle holes and a hardy holewill end up looking something like uri,s anvilsfergy 1300mm x800 mm and100 mm thick has an eight missing Edited August 24, 2015 by fergy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 So about 4" thick. Thats what my 150# anvil is. You can build a intrigal anvil/stand from that chunk. Why turn a horn? Cut out a double horn and rough it out with atorch and then finnish up with a grinder. You wellders are dang good with thiae things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Looks like an interesting project; keep the photos coming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergy Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) ForbiddenYou don't have permission to access /topic/43359-this-will-be-my-new-anvil/ on this server.will turn a horn because then the apprentice gets some lathe time Edited August 24, 2015 by fergy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Kerns Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Man, where is that piece from? Is it the door from a fallout shelter or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergy Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 was welded onto the side of an old rubber tire roller as ballast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausfire Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Hey fergy, that's some shop you have there at Cowtown to handle that sort of serious gear.I can relate to your comment about acquiring an anvil in Australia. I would still be trying if I hadn't had the good fortune to pick up a nice Hay Budden freight free from the U.S.Don't forget to show us a pic of the finished anvil. Great project! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergy Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 Yeah we normally do heavy fab and stuff this sort of thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Well then a bit of heavy steel sculpting should be a snap! Tho traditinal london paters are common, many old spanish anvils were stake anvils, easy to lay out on a large bit of scrap and cut out several. Since your turning a horn, cuting out a series of large "L"s weld on your horn and a cunk of tool steel in the middle. Joc Demsie has a nice page on anvil construction on anvilfire. He has a nice trick or two. It gets your mind working. Such as milling a hardy hole in a peice then welding it on, cuting deep fillets on 3 sides and a small one on the top to get full penitration welds wile leaving only a small weld on the face, etc. a 8x4" post with a round and square horn welded on would be relitively easy for you, if you slot your hardy in the horns before welding on thet saves a bit of welding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergy Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 Yes Charles I seen that page only last week that was the moment I decided I would make my own anvil the guru has some good plans on making an anvil but have not seen a completed one on there like his plansi will get the priceless holes drilled at the profile cutters and a 60 mm hole drilled for my hardy. I will then cut and shape some 60mm bar and then weld together and weld into anvil top top is going to cost $260au 200x900x60mm bis 80 cut and chamfered and drilled fergy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Inhavent either, but it gets you thinking about how to peice together an anvil from heavy plate, or bar stock. As a farrier I'm used to working over the waist of a 4" face. This means that the anvil has lage overhanges. In reality a 4" post with about 12" of horn hanging of each side would work very well for the tyoe of forging I do. I advice folks to chalk an "X" over the center if the waist and ain the hammer at the center and move the work under the hammer. Of corse all those special proceeders are another matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergy Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 Maybe the topic is a bit of a lie as I have now acquired a block of what I am told is carbon steel the block is 770mm x 660mm x 280mm thick I'm told that it is a billet from the westrail workshops it should get delivered here Fridaypics to follow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 the block is 770mm x 660mm x 280mm thick About 30" x 25" x 11" for us Yanks. Decent chunk of steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarry Dog Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Forbidden! Swage block/ Anvil? Broaches/Drills/Mill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergy Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 Probably try to make a swage block out of the 100 mm plate laterhave to ID the large chunk first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Thats massive. Set with the 30" as the hight and build a double horned stake, say from 4" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausfire Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 That's one BIG block of steel, Fergy. I imagine in a shop like yours you'll have the machinery to handle it. I fed those dimensions into a steel weight calculator and it comes in at 1117 kg or about 2460 pounds!Please post pics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergy Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 Well seeing that this has not progressed far I have today ordered an anvil it is to be a 130 kg dobbie cast 8630? in a London pattern any thoughts welcome they have asked what hardness I would like it. Now I know enough about hardness to know I don't want It as hard as #### but how hard do I want it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 55-60 Rockwell C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergy Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 cheers Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Agree with biggun's. Just remember to have your hammer alittle softer and ease the edges to help with not chipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergy Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 have your hammer a little softer? so like temper my hammer? or are they likely to be softer anyways ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Most of the time they are. But some store bought one you don't always know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergy Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 ok will check can do it with a file right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo7 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Yeah mate, files easier=softer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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