ausfire Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 So, I was asked to forge a camp oven lid lifter that was stable enough to shake off the coals. I had a few ideas in mind and this is what I came up with.Yes, I know it looks a bit 'agricultural', but hey, it works really well and you can lift the heavy camp oven lid and hold it vertically with little effort. It's only a prototype and now I know it works, the next one will have more graceful lines and probably lighter metal. And I need more practice forging a ball shape on the ends of the handles.I would like to figure out a way of forging one without the need for the welded guides. Collars or rivets perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergy Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 that Is a nice piece of work!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo7 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Good job mate, how about forge welding the collars or if you are better than me, upset n draw and drift the collars (?), maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Wouldn´t a Tong work better? like on of those the blacksmiths haveThat way your hand would not be over the fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSW Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Lids on large dutch ovens are heavy and the leverage is all wrong if you try and use tongs from the side as it just multiplies the weight. Straight up is usually best. Keeping it steady is important if you put coals on top, so you don't get ash in your food. No one likes the taste of aXX I mean ash. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Greetings all, I designed mine years ago .. Non slip and the hoop on the end allows for hanging it up and lifting the whole oven by the bail . Woops 2 rivets and one forge weld .. Back to the drawing board.. LOL .. Forge on and make beautiful thingsJim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausfire Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 My design is far less stylish than Jim's, but it does work. I have studied Jim's design over a period of time and did start to make a similar lifter, pivoted with a rivet (I used a bolt on the first one) but I could never get those foot loops right. Easy to make the hook part but the rest remains a challenge. I like the mechanical advantage provided by the lever in Jim's lifter. I'll keep trying.KRS: Yes, tongs would keep your hand away from the fire, but the lid would wobble all over the place which defeats the purpose. And, as DSW points out, the weight would be multiplied, and those lids are heavy enough as they are.Turbo: Maybe! I'm not good at forge welding, unless it's a straightforward joint. The MIG beckons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpearson Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 make the guides u shape weld or rivet through the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianinsa Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Both those lifters look like they were built using 'military spec.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinobi Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Could you forge (ok bend) in a loop like taking a bite while tying a knot at the location of each of those guide collars? At least it might work on the upper one, the lower might need to be a punched hole in the spur springing from the main shaft, and river of tennon or what have you to attach the two together. I suppose you could also forge a little loop or a separate tab with a hole in it that you can rivet to the main shaft as well. Plenty of mechanical joint options methinks great at designs both of you, excellent form and function! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chichi Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Similar to wpearsons comment above-put a small tenon on the end of say a 1/2 in. bar. Flatten and spread a 1 in section next to the tenon and punch a square or round hole in the flattened section. This will be the guide.. Put a hole in the upright and brad the punched guide in place. My sizes may not be right but I am sure you get the idea. The upright will have a nice swell where the tenon is inserted.Good luck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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