root Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) WHat do you hammer slammers do when you need a striker but it's only you. In other words it's just me on the anvil. I DO NOT have a power hammer air hammer or anything other then ARMSTRONG. To get my work done.It's not a big deal until I need a second person for either a striker or tool holder. Any tips,tricks or secrets? I do mainly blades but I want to start some axes as well.I'm also pretty well equipped with a 115 hay budden and 3 other smaller anvils, along with a 6 inch post vice and buffalo forge and blower. Along with all kinds of other tools not worth mentioning here and now. SO what do you stand alone working smiths use for a 2nd person when needing a striker and don't have a power hammer or person to do it? Rich ETA: I do not have a power hammer Edited July 30, 2015 by root Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSW Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I'll often set things up so I can hold the tongs between my legs so I can use both hands, or set up a work stand and clamp the piece on the stand where I need it on the anvil. Then there's always hold downs of various sorts like chain hold downs or doglegs to secure stock to the anvil. Another option is to build a treadle hammer or drop hammer so your foot can do the work. Invest in a hydraulic press, screw press or arbor press so you apply pressure to the tool fitted in the press and so on. or you can always find yourself a lackey and train him... LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
root Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 Thanks for the speedy response.I do have a "lacky" that I hire from time to time for grunt work. He can't read a tape measure but if you want it tore down he's your guy. In other words I wouldn't turn him loose in your bathroom with a caulk gun for finish work, but I'd have no problem letting him caulk your roof. I do have a few holders that work off of tension in the hardy hole but we are talking 3 + lbs axe heads here, and will need smacked with authority more then once in a row. In a certain fashion. I be forging historically correct viking axes in the traditional manner. ( if all goes well) I still have some tools to build to do it. Mandrels and such but figured I'l ask about a "dead man" while I get the tools made. I won't even be getting back on the forge until Sat or Sun. this week to heat treat some blades and possibly start making the tools I need for the axe forgings. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarry Dog Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Google search smithin' magician / blacksmith's helper. The 45° C-frame style looks quite handy for a lot of different types of work. I plan to build one once I get some appropriate scraps from work. For a hoot, look up "Blacksmith's third hand" on youtube. I wouldn't advise trying it hot though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Look at an Ollie hammer. May be something you can use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausfire Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 A strong and willing wife is a great asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
root Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 A strong and willing wife is a great asset.Got the willing wife but she's 110 lbs soaking wet. The HB anvil weighs more then her.....I'll look into the other alternatives ....thanksRich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccustomknives Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I use a pair of vice grips made into a hardy tool. It requires a handle be welded on to the billet. Works great for Damascus and bearings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I got a wife like that to. But she'll be the first in line to swing an 8 lb sledge for me. Shoot she did most of the block work for my shop last summer when she was off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arftist Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 First choice to replace a striker (for me) is a flypress. Second choice would be a treadle or Oliver hammer (two different things, an Oliver can be constructed rather simply.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 check out the thread spencer inline vs swing arm and look at alen evans pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notownkid Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 .vand a fine job she did from the pictures we saw. I vote for the wife idea as well, brother in law works if he happens to be around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARKtest Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 When the sun rises I'll see if I can't pull out my foot actuated hold down. I repurposed one of those dog lawn anchors (looks like a dish welded onto a stick). Until I can post a picture I'll describe it. I cut off the length to fit in my short anvil, curled the end, and then stung a piece of large gauge wire (coat hangar size) through the end. The wire ends in a triangle 2 to 3 inches off the ground. I get my piece hot, throw my foot in the "stirrup", lift up on the convenient bar on top, stick the piece under it, push my boot down like I'm stepping on the piece itself, and hammer away. The dish shape holds irregular shapes as well as plain stock. You can usually find them at yard sales or flea markets for dirt cheap, and Tractor Supply and Walmart sell them brand new for not much either. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Coulle of thoughts, as to the wife, 1 she can hold the tonngs and top tools and you swing, and two, sledges come in 6# and I have mounted a 4# hand sledge with a longer handle. One of the IFI gang built some very simple olivers a few years back fome sledge heads. Unfortunantly, even tho I PM'd him and talked about them The "forbiden" deamon is stalking my "in box" and I cant tell you what thread. But they were very simple on the lines of chain makers hammers with the twist uf being adjustable hight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I have several sledges with the handles cut short that I use when I need more whomp. I make sure I warm up the arm before using them and stop when the arm says it's time to go to a lighter hammer again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anvil Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I use adjustable stands, an "s" hook and a weight.Make sure to level your stands with the face of the anvil, put s hook and weight on your work and voi la, two free hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Cochran Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 and a fine job she did from the pictures we saw. I vote for the wife idea as well, brother in law works if he happens to be around.Just don't make the wife mad before you get her swingin that big hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 While marrying a striker is a viable option a simple Oliver type treadle hammer doesn't eat, doesn't want you to take out the garbage but isn't comfy to snuggle at night.I think I'd just make a simple Oliver type hammer that pivots out of the way when I don't need it.Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Another option may be a Tommy Hammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notownkid Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Just don't make the wife mad before you get her swingin that big hammer. My wife is a Nurse she breaks me she has to fix me or haul me to the Doc, neither does she enjoy as much as telling the other nurses she had been "helping" in the shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Notownkid ya got a good one!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Just remember the first ruel of strikers, if you miss its my turn to swing the hammer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Cochran Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Just remember the first ruel of strikers, if you miss its my turn to swing the hammer!I think that one should be in the blacksmithing gems topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Wont be the first, or I doubt the last smart @$$ coment I make that ends up there, LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Wont be the first, or I doubt the last smart @$$ coment I make that ends up there, LOLTrue Charles but this one is a "something to hang on the shop wall, keeper."Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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