pike3e Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Does anyone have any pics of dies used to hot cut bar stock or billets. I have one made from a scrap peice of I beam and it works ok, just needs dressing often. I was just wondering what others used? ThanksJohn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arftist Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Mcraven shows a hot shear made from grader blade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pike3e Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 do you have a link, I dont know what Mcraven is? ThanksJohn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Charles McRaven in "Country Blacksmithing" more recently republished under a different name as I recall. There are several blacksmith made shears shown in "Practical Blacksmithing", Richardson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Seems like most cut offs for the press need constant sharpening. That process of cutting on a thin blade tends to turn the edge into a fuller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arftist Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Mcraven's shear couldn't be simpler,2 pieces of blade about 6-8" wide by two feet long. Bottom piece has a hardy tang welded on so it sits vertical atop the anvil. Top piece is hinged to bottom piece at the top of one end by a stout bolt and a few feet of handle welded on the other end. Looks like a pair of scissors in operation. Not designed for sole use I don't think, and the cutting action can be assisted by sledge hammer if needed.The bevel left on the scrap blade is sufficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNewman Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) I have a press cutoff tool that I have cut at least a thousand pieces of 4340 and 4140 off with and my edges are pretty much as sharp as new It is basically 2 v blocks with stops on both ends that have set screws. I have a 1" HSS lathe tool bit in each one. When they eventually get dull I will flip the tool to one of the other corners. Grant Sarver described this tool a few years ago here and on the NWBA site and I made one. It has been a great tool. He mentioned having problems with HSS breaking and he used Cold rolled square 4340 heat treated. I can't get 4340 square without forging it so and I would then need to get it surface ground. So I tried the HSS tool bit and it has been great. He had employees using his and some of them may have used it too cold . The two cut off surfaces have to be well aligned when cutting thinner steel. Slightly colder steel actually cuts a little better than really hot if the edges are not perfectly aligned. Edited March 20, 2015 by JNewman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 A shear doesn't need nor want any more bevel than gives it a little relief. Just enough it doesn't sit flat on the blades is plenty. IIRC 83-85* was a good bevel for metal shears, placed high edges facing of course.If you can sharpen grader edge it's the cheap stuff but probably good enough. I've found just cleaning up a good smooth torch cut tends to go through grinding disks at an alarming rate unless done at red heat. Then again I salvaged Vascowear from work and the stuff has a lot of tungsten carbide in the 150pt. high alloy steel matrix so it wouldn't just grind off on pavement.For most things it's more trouble than it's worth.Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I've seen them made from railroad rail as shown. But you can see the wear on the one as I described above. You can see mine in my book about presses and tooling. 1Hardie.bmp2Hardie.bmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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