stan Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Had these for years now never used them both have markings.Are they designed to be struck if so which end or does it matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Those are hammers. I don't know if or for what they are specially designed for so I'd just have to take them to hot steel and see. I certainly wouldn't hit them with another hammer, that can turn out B_A_D.Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Greetings Stan,I am with Frosty on the no hit ... I would keep them and use them for forming sheet metal on sand bags or soft media. Forge on and make beautiful thingsJim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) Frosty thanks, I guess that's why the ends are the same , threw me the fact the eye holes are round. Edited March 10, 2015 by stan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 Greetings Stan, I am with Frosty on the no hit ... I would keep them and use them for forming sheet metal on sand bags or soft media. Forge on and make beautiful thingsJimHi Jim, so they may not be for forging at all.Anyway there good tools they won`t be getting hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Greywolf Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 A quick mooch trying out my google-fu and I found the "Joe" brand was registered in 1922, the company was dissolved in 1976.They made all manner of agricultural and industrial hand tools including tools for the military during WW2.As to why they folded. I haven't found any records but can I speculate based on known data:During the early 1970's English (and the rest of the UK) manufacturing was severely hampered by the Coal Miner's strikes, 3 day (working) weeks were introduced. Coal was the lifeblood of the UK without it there was no electricity, all available coal was used in power generation. No coal, no hot iron. (Coal miners were striking over pay and conditions, both of which were very poor at the time.)Then came the drought in the UK, no water, heavy industry was curtailed due to fire risk, no water for the fire brigade to fight a blaze. Add to that a Banking crisis at the start of the decade and you can see how a manufacturer can become stressed and stretched to eventually become insolvent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWooldridge Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) Looks like a one-handed spike maul. Edited March 10, 2015 by HWooldridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 A quick mooch trying out my google-fu and I found the "Joe" brand was registered in 1922, the company was dissolved in 1976.They made all manner of agricultural and industrial hand tools including tools for the military during WW2.As to why they folded. I haven't found any records but can I speculate based on known data:During the early 1970's English (and the rest of the UK) manufacturing was severely hampered by the Coal Miner's strikes, 3 day (working) weeks were introduced. Coal was the lifeblood of the UK without it there was no electricity, all available coal was used in power generation. No coal, no hot iron. (Coal miners were striking over pay and conditions, both of which were very poor at the time.)Then came the drought in the UK, no water, heavy industry was curtailed due to fire risk, no water for the fire brigade to fight a blaze. Add to that a Banking crisis at the start of the decade and you can see how a manufacturer can become stressed and stretched to eventually become insolvent.Hi Carl thanks for the research, interesting, by the way my old man was born in Horbury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Greywolf Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Horbury, so he's a Wezzy ( Wezzy - West Yorkshire folk - sometimes called comforts, because when they visit the East Coast holiday towns they Come for't weekend/week ) My pleasure to do the research, not heard of the Joe brand and wanted to know for myself too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Evans Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Something like a stone or coal breaking hammer?If it was for sheet metal forming I think it would probably have two different radii peens.Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted March 13, 2015 Author Share Posted March 13, 2015 Something like a stone or coal breaking hammer?If it was for sheet metal forming I think it would probably have two different radii peens.AlanHi Allan Its a bit of a mystery did not meet the guy who sold them but I think he might have been a farrier.Everyone says there hammers but the eyes are round not oval, Think the heads would twist on the handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Evans Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 type "stone breaking hammer" into Google ad look at the images that come up…I just did, looks fairly convincing…or at least a lot of other people (manufacturers included) are making the same mistake!Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I have a couple round eyed hammers with the same round steel "wedges". I don't think any moved on me but they're not my main go to hammers. If I think about it I'll put one on the rack and put a story mark in the eye to see.Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianinsa Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Frosty, if you put things "in the eye" you don't see too good I have some similar hammer heads lying around and have thought about using them as stock to re-forge but never quite got round to doing so, they seem quite hard so striking them might make 'for interesting' ( read downright dangerous) times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Right you are Ian, I should've polled you before saying that huh?A funny thing, probably 30 years ago there were a few "close out" tool stores in Anchorage and the one nearest me took a liking to me. I'll skip that long story. I used to get pretty good discounts from them because they liked me and I ended up with a "set" of Chinese hammers to "test" for them. Basically square, flat faced blocks of steel on handles from 500gm to 2,000gm. They made really nice plannishing hammers if I was really careful of the edges. I was going to try forging one into something else but haven't.The point of all that is these hammers are some kind of hard/tough steel, a file will skate on them but they don't chip, even smacked together. I don't know what they are but they're pretty darned sweet CHEAP hammers. Too bad they aren't consistent on still like that. <sigh>Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianinsa Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Ooh! Are you suggesting that I may have horns that you would want to chop off?..... Apology to the OP for hijacking the thread. Love ya Frosty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Uh . . . Um . . . I'll think of a snappy rejoinder as soon as I stop laughing Ian.Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 type "stone breaking hammer" into Google ad look at the images that come up…I just did, looks fairly convincing…or at least a lot of other people (manufacturers included) are making the same mistake!AlanSee what you mean, some even have round eyes you seam to have hit the nail on the head.Sounds like hard labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Evans Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I remembered that my very posh Great Aunt had one in her coal cellar in Bristol….probably stuck in my mind for 60 odd years because I also remember leaving black footprints across her white carpet having gone into the cellar exploring when we stayed with her one Christmas….oh! How all the adults laughed! Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweany Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 the first, is one of my favorite type of drawing out hammer........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 My large single jack straight pein is a cleaned up stone hammer, as my 16lb. straight pein sledge.Shhhhhhhhhh. don't tell the hammer police!Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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