jlpservicesinc Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Here is my latest addition. a 200lbs Fisher. Looks like the hardie hole was never used or abused. Face is very lively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) Interesting new piece in the Fisher & Norris Factory Museum. Probably early 1950s Fisher, 100 lb, made for US govt to military specs. Olive green paint, no logo, no date, no FISHER. This anvil is NOS. The face is unmarked, edges perfect. This is what factory new looks like. Edited October 11, 2019 by njanvilman Formatting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Interesting. I know that you usually strip the paint off any anvils that are going in the museum, but will you be keeping the military spec paint in this case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnut Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 njanvilman, She's a beaut. Isn't new old stock great? JLP, yet another great find. I get the feeling it was used to produce a few specific things, or the smith who used to own it liked working in just a few spots. I'm glad you got another anvil for the teaching center. I hope your students realize the time, effort, and forethought you've invested in making your vision come to life. I hope to attend one day but who can say what the future holds? Pnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 14 hours ago, JHCC said: Interesting. I know that you usually strip the paint off any anvils that are going in the museum, but will you be keeping the military spec paint in this case? I only take off ugly paint. Original paint gets preserved always. 14 hours ago, pnut said: njanvilman, She's a beaut. Isn't new old stock great? This anvil is going into the Fisher & Norris Factory Museum. We only teach the history of Fisher anvils here at the museum to interested guests. And this is another interesting addition to my book on the story of all things Fisher & Norris, and Crossley. Hopefully the book will be available in the spring 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnut Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 I'll be looking forward to reading it. Spring 2020 is right around the corner. Pnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 As soon as the book is available, I will make it known here, on FB, Instagram, and wherever I can advertise it. Besides the products they made, the story of the people behind everything is fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnut Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) Hopefully there will be lots of pics of the workers at task and the facilities. I agree the people's stories are fascinating and help a person get a more complete sense of the history behind the company, because after all a company is it's people. Can't wait hopefully I'll not have to wait till work picks back up to get it. Pnut Edited October 11, 2019 by pnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 I am including all of the photos of both the F&N factory and Crossley factory. All that I can find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 I love the back ground info as well. I can't wait for the book to come out and have so many questions as to all aspects of the Fisher Norris company. when I was little I dreamed of visiting the place and getting one of their anvils.. LOL.. I love early production type videos. It really is to bad that kind of thing never happened there or at other Anvil mfg places. Did Crossley machine make other products? I have so many questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 Crossley Machine Co, 1879 - 1999 There primary production were machines for all aspects of clay and ceramic production. Trenton NJ had many large factories producing everything from sinks to electrical fixtures. Crossley made all of the machinery they needed, or custom built machines if they did not have what the customer wanted. Lots in the book.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Wow they were pretty prominent in their own right. I found this online. crossleymachinec00cros.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 They produced thousands of machines of all types for the clay industry. At its peak, Crossley had many employees. Lots about this in the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I don't want to take up your time but the questions are just popping. I'm trying to show restraint. So, did Crossley buy fisher to have more access to casting equipment? IE to absorb the company? Or were they really interested in Production of Fisher and Norris lines of tooling? If I don't show back up on this page. I literally have so many questions and I know our putting out the book and most if not all will be answered there. I'm just so intrigued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 21 hours ago, jlpservicesinc said: I don't want to take up your time but..... F&N shut down 12/61 due to family reasons, but mostly because State of NU condemned two square blocks of Trenton to expand the parking and state buildings. Everything in that area was destroyed. Crossley had the foundry and was able to continue production of their products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted November 6, 2019 Author Share Posted November 6, 2019 Interesting picture of a broken Fisher anvil. Split right at the hardy hole. Examining the break shows the anvil had very poor quality iron. It was bound to break at some point. It is unusual to have the broken piece together with the anvil. The small piece is usually lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I have a Vulcan with a broken off horn and the horn. It had casting voids you could stick a pencil in, in a line at the horn body interface. Makes that Fisher look pretty good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Is that the one you got from Alan C.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted November 6, 2019 Author Share Posted November 6, 2019 43 minutes ago, jlpservicesinc said: Is that the one you got from Alan C.? No, that is a different one. This one came on a Fisher stand. I bought the two just for the stand. The stand now has a 100 FARS Fisher anvil on it. This anvil is just a curiosity now. I might JB weld it together, paint it, and incorporate it into a brick wall or a gate. Just thinking of possible uses in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Leave it as-is! As an educational display, it’s unique! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I'm with JHCC on this one.. Not only is it unique to have the fitting pieces but maybe if you stand it up on the horn and put the tail section back on it will stay. You can then talk about how the cross section of the fishers are made. I mean face thickenss to body and the way the core was for the hardie hole. that poor anvil, looks like it was beat to death just over the area of the hardie hole. Could just be the photo. Ok, I have to ask. I've seen maybe 10 FN and I have seen very consistently there is a crown to the steel plate to body. it looks like the edges are thicker than the center section of the face plate. These were supposed to be made out of W1. Where they forged and then sheared and punched to size? Then cooled, cleaned (pickeled or ground) then preheated before they went into the mold? I would have loved to have seen the process done. Here is an example on a 200lbs but every one I have seen of the newer style has this same faceplate profile from 100lbs up to 500lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 jlp.....I explain the process as well as I can interpret what was done in my book, along with factory photos. It would take a long time to explain it all. My book will be done soon, printed, and ready by the ABANA event near Saratoga in June. Hope to meet you then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 thanks. I kinda figured. the mind has a tendency to wonder about such wonderful processes. A fly on the wall kind of deal. You sure will. I'll be in the teaching tent. Judging the chain making as well as other demos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Let us know if you need any "pre-sales" to help fund publishing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Good point Thomas. I would certainly do a pre-sales payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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