blacksmith777 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Hi,guys. One of my clients gave me the picture. I've never seen this kind of ironwork. How to forge it? Thanks for help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy k Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 One piece at a time, then assemble.I'll try to find some time to make one later this month, and take some pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedefiddle Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I find it interesting that someone had so much time on their hands. They had time to make a self pouring wine dispenser. Who did they expect was going to clean up the mess?? :) :) How lazy can someone be??? The mind is a wonderful thing. What one man can dream up, another man will implement. Usefull or knot. Would you like to buy a bridge?? Never had salt water under it. ................................ CHEAP! :) Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Hale Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 777 AS Jeremy suggested above. all the moves on that piece are basic to midlevel smithing. Anyone can learn all of them. If you are new it is out of reach for you now but may well be done in your future. Jeremy as I see it can forge anything he can imagine or someone else has done. He started with basics. He built on those to get to this level. If you are new get into a 'smithing group and see wot others do and even better is to add someone on one or group instructions. I do not know if they are available where you live. But there are books on 'smithing that will let you learn alone if you have to. On this site there are basics listed in the pages section that may get you working also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaughnT Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 The legs aren't equi-distant from each other or the same height; the cage rotates on the taller legs and has a bail for carrying when upright. Doesn't look like it's self-pouring, but self-righting. There appears to be a spring under the bottle that controls the speed of the bottle's return to upright. Without any type of gearing or clockwork, there's no way for the weight of the bottle to be overcome in a controllable fashion. The guy's hand looks like it's manipulating something, but I can't figure out how it relates to the rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSW Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Picture isn't the greatest, but I think that's a crank he's turning that may "tip" the bottle. A better picture would help explain it better. My guess is the real "difficult" part of that project is mostly in getting all the pieces to fit together and be the correct length/position. Looks like it's more an exercise in precision fitting and fab work than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 The mechanism is pretty basic. "He's" turning a screw that advances or retracts the bottom female thread of the lever that raises and lowers the bottle. It's a pretty cool piece and mostly if not all mid skill level, cutting the threads would be the toughest part, the rest is basic smithing of a consistent grade. I'd be more than happy to have one on the table. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 There is a woodcut/drawing of an original one of these in one of Seymoure Lindsay's books, can't remember which one right. Anyway the original is 16th-17th century. The thread is made by brazing like an early leg vise. Or it could be made by filing and chiseling as described in Moxson's Mechanix . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neg Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 The threads in this picture are just done like a corkscrew with a single piece of thin round stock. If you look close in the light part of the picture you can see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy k Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Yes - the thread is the same as a courting candle.The thread is like the first picture and you can see the same in the second inside the red circle.The 3rd picture has a conventional machined thread.I will still make one similar to these but a tad different to my liking, and show the results here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfootnampa Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Okay Swede... you just go pour your wine by hand! The rest of us are gonna relax and just turn our little crank and ENJOY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thingmaker3 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Now that I understand how it works, I'm impressed with it. User can set the bottle for a slow pour, allowing a red to oxidize. Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy k Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 This week I'll be doing the design work on my bottle pourer, so it wont be to long before I can start the forging of it, (I didn't forget I said I'd make one, and show pics). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windancer Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 If these were left a little rustic with a lot of hammer marks lef I bet they would sell. We don't drink wine but I may work on one later just to watch it work! I like it a lot! You guys post lots of pics, please! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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