windancer Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I have seen many pieces of blacksmith art mounted on various size stones. Never saw the makers to ask them how. So hoping someone here has done this and is willing to share how they did [do] it? Thanks, Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Blythin Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Dave, are you asking about something thats been formed to fit a matching stone (i.e. something like a forged snake, that drapes over a specific boulder); or are you asking about things permanently attached to stones (i.e. a bird bath with a stone base, or a grille or something set into a solid masonry building)? I ask because the how depends a lot on the application and the type of stone involved. Also, as someone that has studied built heritage conservation, when it comes to mating different materials together (stone and metal, stone and wood, wood and metal, etc.), I know that there are far more ways to do it wrong, than to do it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windancer Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share Posted October 2, 2013 Neil, After one of the conferences I saw pics of a sword stuck into a rock. I have also seen steel crosses and such attached to rock, with no clue showing as to how the did it. Lots of bookends attached to stones, too. Not cast in place with concrete, just somehow stuck to or in a plain old garden variety stone. I am not about to just start trying to get the two mated- asking those more experienced is nearly always faster and cheaper. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgirard13 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Usually a hole drilled into the stone with a steel stub coming off the pc into the hole with apoxy or rockite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turley Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Here's a nice piece by Doug Wilson of Little Deer Isle, Maine. The bird is removable, is 6" tall overall. Sayings and Cornpone The umpire. "A pitch ain't nothin' until I call it somethin'." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Greetings Dave, I made this a few years ago as a testimonial for a friend.. He was a knapper and loved to show people how it was done... After a weekend of smithing at a local restaurant just before he left he put an arrow head on my table as a gift... I laughed and told him it needed some steel to make it perfect. Unfortunately he passed away a few days later at a very young age... I thought you might enjoy a look... The meaning is LIFE TAKES SOME UNEXPECTED DIRECTIONS ..... Forge on and make beautiful things Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLMartin Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 One common historical way to join ironwork to stone is to drill a slightly over sized hole for the bar, place the bar into the hole, then pour hot lead into the gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windancer Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 Thanks to all- will pick up a masonary bit tomorrow and have a go on Friday. If I can make it work I will post a pic. Id not I will keep trying until I get it, then post a pic. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yahoo2 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Look for some sort of 2 component anchor epoxy, its for anchoring to concrete and stone, its non shrinking so it wont come loose with time. I don't like using the tubes with the mixing nozzle if I only have little jobs to do, I end up throwing away more than I use, I try and get the two little tubs and mix my own with a paint scraper on an old bit of laminex. Depending on the stone the hole may need a clean and the metal stud or pin needs to be roughed up a bit with a chisel or the hammer and maybe a bit of a sanding. Will need to think about how to sit or hold the piece while the epoxy sets if you are not inserting studs, which can take a while. Or alternatively there are epoxy products that can be drilled and tapped like devcon's plastic steel putty so that the metal structure can be bolted and the head hidden or capped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anvil Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Well, you could forge weld them. Just use rockwool for flux,,, ;)Make sure you grind the rockwool, and of course, rockwool comes from hydraulic rams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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