LastRonin Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I wanted to try my hand at pattern welding. Had read several places that recommended starting with bandsaw blades and pallet strapping. I just recently stumbled on a small supply of each and went for it. I put together a stack, alternating 15 pieces of sawblade and 14 pieces of strapping. I used 20 Mule Team Borax... probably more generously than necessary lol. But I did manage to forge weld it into a -cough- billet. I then put a gentle twist along it. Flattened it to about 1/4" by about 1/2" Curious s to how it had turned out, I ground a section basically smooth so I could try to see what sort of patterning I'd come up with. Here is the ground and slightly polished piece before etching.http://www.iforgeiron.com/uploads/gallery/category_2/gallery_28530_2_78218.jpg Please forgive the inclusions and cold shunts... I believe I have seen where I screwed up and will try to do better on the next one. I still went on to etch and see the pattern.http://www.iforgeiron.com/uploads/gallery/category_2/gallery_28530_2_41846.jpg I didn't have any of what I could find in the forums and online as etching agents and was about to hunt down a Radio Shack for some Ferric Chloride when I remembered an experiment I had seen, Putting several small balls of aluminum foil in a plastic bottle with about an inch-and-a-half of a certain brand toilet bowl cleaner.http://www.iforgeiron.com/uploads/gallery/category_2/gallery_28530_2_53092.jpg The Works has 20% Hydrogen Chloride. This is the result after fifteen minutes in the solution at room temperature. I used a buffing cone on my dremel to polish the surface somewhat. http://www.iforgeiron.com/uploads/gallery/category_2/gallery_28530_2_13978.jpg I'm actually pretty happy with what I've learned and look forward to a more successful next attempt. Any advice or comments? Anyone else used this cheap method for etching? Or is there an even cheaper method I don't know about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Hale Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 After a couple dozen they get easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Vinegar works over night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastRonin Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 I'm tempted to cut it in half and do a side by side comparison, vinegar vs. The Works. I'm really happy with the level of etching in only 15 minutes using the Works at room temperature. I know vinegar is cheap too, but if it is slower... Anyway, like I've seen others on here suggest many times in the past... I'm going to make several test pieces and try different techniques and see how they each turn out. Then when I need to do some etching I'll have choices to choose from to get the best effect for that project. I'll post pics and info. In the meantime, no one has answered with a yes or a no as to whether they have tried "The Works" toilet cleaner for etching... anyone? (If you notice the change from 'cut it in half' to 'several test pieces'... halfway through typing my brain stepped ahead of my fingers and decided that two points of comparison weren't enough, so I'm going to section it into probably six to eight pieces.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastRonin Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 Also... does anyone have any ideas for inexpensive etching/ contrasting techniques? Please post any ideas here that I might want to include in my comparison. I'll try to use as many of them as I can. If I don't use your suggestion, it might just be that it is outside my budget or skill level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanshin Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Ferric is probably the most effective method I tried. And I made a lot of experiments. A pretty good solution, if you want to deep etch and then buff to mirror finish, is to use nitric acid. Use a solution of 1/3 acid and 2/3 distilled water and keep stirring using the damascus as stirring tool. In this way you won't have bubbles forming. Once in a while take it out and use a brush to gentle remove eventual bubbles and put it back. A couple of minutes can etch really deeply. Then sand with a 1200 paper on a little block of wood, gently. If you want you can buff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Hydrogen Chloride = Hydrochloric or Muriatic Acid all the same stuff. Putting it in a bottle with a few balls of aluminum foil is just plain STUPID it is a very unsafe practice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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