Mark Emig Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Just got this Prybil 18 inch swing spinning lathe. 3 horse. Now on to learning how to use it. Got a bunch of tooling with it-there is about 20 more like in the picture and a bunch of chucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvmikeray Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Man I want one of those !!! I half keep watch out for one at times. That is a nice setup!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbruce Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Nice looking machine, Can't wait to see what you can do with it.... B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Emig Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 I just sold my Fruin to pay for it. I used the new one today and found 8 ways to ruin good material, then called it quits for the day :lol: . Tore it, warped it ,flung it off the machine...... On another note, I know a guy who has a BIG gap bed spinning lathe for sale-I think its at least a 3 foot swing. P.M. me and I'll give you his info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevan Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Now THAT is cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fe-Wood Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Very Nice Mark! I'd be interested in the gap bed but its to far away.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Emig Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 That's why they invented shipping companies with tractor trailers:D And thanks for the compliments. Now I just have to learn not to ruin every piece of material I put on it :( forgot to add-that gap bed lathe is pretty rare-if anyone wants to find out more,PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpj01 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Nice looking lathe, have you had any luck with it? I come from a family of spinners and work on a 22 inch Grabo given to me by my grandfather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 the first pic is Dad spinning some kind of radar dish in our basement, maybe in Everett Wa. Or Portland Or. I don't remember where though I do remember that view. The second is Elmer, I think doing some of the really rare hand spinning in the shop. The next two are the bells, we spun hundreds, maybe thousands of the things, I was the one who polished them with emery cloth and kerosene, it turned me silver gray for days a shower wouldn't fix. the fellow spinning the bells is Wolfgang, great big bear of a man with a teddy bear's heart. Great guy, great spinner. This is Dad spinning hot, Sherrie is holding torch. I held torch a LOT. this part was some jet/rocket engine high temp alloy, we didn't spin anything else hot. Could've been inconel, monel, etc. or some alloy of titanium. We spun a LOT of high alloy stock for aerospace. The next pic is Glenn, he was Dad's machinist, in a shop where everybody HAD to have more than one trade Glenn was just the machinist, didn't spin a lick, trimmed blanks sometimes but he held the foreman's position on his skill as a machinist alone. I believe those are all the spinning pics I have handy. The next one is the punch bowl Dad spun because someone told him it couldn't be done with scissor tools. The inner bowl is 14 ga. 300x stainless steel and the outer is something like 18 ga. copper. There is a dead air space between both bowls and the only contact is at the join which is the rolled rim where the ss pinches the copper bowl. The copper bowl is so fragile you could've folded it and crushed it by hand before it was joined to the SS bowl. Dad free spun it, no die, but a bare flat disk for the live center tail stock hold it in place, just the scissor tools, lathe, blank and skill. the stainless inner bowl is so tough you could park a pickup truck on it without marking it. Dad did so to prove it wasn't annealed just before crimping the two together. He free spun two bowls before witnesses to prove the point. That's me holding one of the punch bowls for scale. Last, (finally you say!) is a stainless steel jigger, same stock as the punch bowl, same gauge, free spun. Another of Dad's show off pieces. At the time, there were maybe 3-4 people this side of the pond who could pull these off, let alone do such a nice job. Yes, it measures one jigger. I find it hard NOT to brag about Dad. It's so good to have parents a boy can brag about you know. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciladog Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Frosty, In picture 4, is that what is referred to as a scissor tool? Last month I had my first foray into metal spinning. I made a scissor tool (if that is what it is called), spun a chuck and got to work spinning .040 cold rolled. I now have an undying respect for metal spinners. It is an amazing craft but now I know it takes years to learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry W. Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Frosty, I really enjoyed the pics. Looks like big footsteps to follow. Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Frosty, In picture 4, is that what is referred to as a scissor tool? Last month I had my first foray into metal spinning. I made a scissor tool (if that is what it is called), spun a chuck and got to work spinning .040 cold rolled. I now have an undying respect for metal spinners. It is an amazing craft but now I know it takes years to learn. Yes it is, the only pic of hand spinning is Elmer, #2. Every once in a while someone would have to take a hand tool to a part to correct something but it was rare and usually a result of a ham handed kid (me) screwing up. I don't think I have a pic of a scissor tool for itself and I didn't inherit but a roller and fork. (the business end) hanging on the walls behind the lathes are left hand tools, the half with the roller but there were only a couple right hand halves at any given lathe. I loved spinning steel, the right speed and get the touch and it flows over the die like butter. I ran 14-20 ga. x 9"+/- dia steel blanks at 3,200 rpm and it almost didn't take pressure to spin it. Sweet fun once you have the feel. Want a PITA, spin brass or sterling silver. A scissor tool really helps, these metals work harden really fast and abruptly. hand spinning you have to pass back and forth to maintain thickness and smooth marks so you only get maybe three passes before it hits the danger zone and you have to anneal. Most copper alloys you can move as far as you can on the first pass or blow. with a scissor tool you have far more power on the blank, it's a compound lever so you can apply literally tons of force. Anyhow, on many parts you can bring them from a blank to finished piece, say 1/2 sphere, in one, maybe two passes tops. I was doing really well to do it in 2-3 passes but Dad could do some really complicated shapes in a single or double pass. First pass with a round tool, second pass with a sharpener to finish details. Anyway, my favorite was mild steel with aluminum a far second. Al is soft (HAH, most alloys are NOT soft) but you have to almost force it to behave. the good part is it work hardens a little at a time and speaks it clues loudly. You have to be alseep to miss al work hardening, feel changes, sound changes, it all changes, even the smell. For lube we used Fels Naptha soap but the formula has changed and I hear it's not good for lube anymore. Fels soap and white grease, just enough grease to soften the soap to soft shoe polish consistency. Oh cripes I'm rambling again. Thanks for pulling good memories guys. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Emig Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 In answer to the question,have I had any luck with it, yes. I sold it. Spinning is a whole other art form, and I just don't have the time to dedicate to learning it. I spent a bunch of time trying, and realized that I was spreading myself too thin and am going to concentrate on ONE craft. I also tried wood turning with the spinning lathe, and realized I hated that-too many wood chips spewing out all over-don't understand how people like that. So, I sold it to a guy in Colorado who is going to use it for what it is meant for. It is way too nice a machine to sit and rust unused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fe-Wood Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I'm sorry to hear that you sold the lathe although I understand your point about focusing on one craft. Learning to spin metal without hands on instruction is an exorcise in frustration. Been there, done that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Emig Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 I get to spread out on too many things, then nothing gets done well. Now that I'm back on focusing on forging, things are going a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Greetings Mark, Just do as I do . ( FILE THIS UNDER IT WAS A GOOD IDEA AT THE TIME ) I have a bunch... I have to live about 3 lifetimes just to finish what I started.. Remember its the journey..... I learned to determine what you like in life you must establish what you don't... Keep knockin and keep the faith.. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Emig Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Besides the journey, it's the process of it all also. Spinning is absolutley facinating-it's just a time thing-with kids, 80 year old Dad, rowing........ And I have LOTS of projects partway complete-I'll always have something to do.Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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